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[–] bouh 13 points 11 months ago (29 children)

You're trying to read too much into this.

When the state doesn't work for enough people anymore, it collapses into fascism. It always does. Unless it collapses to foreign forces of course.

Accelerationism at this point is merely an argument for liberals to convince people who are not fascists to support their liberalism as a lesser danger.

It won't work. Liberalism will have to do something, not the people who don't believe the bullshit anymore. And interestingly, throughout history, liberals always choose fascism over anything else that would remove them some power.

So don't pretend it's up to the leftists to choose. You, the liberals, did this to the world. Time to open your eyes.

Liberalism is responsible for this fascist doom, not the left. That's not only true for the US. That's also true for all of Europe. Liberals vanquished the left. Now is the time to fight fascism. That's what you earned. The left will fight. Will the liberals do it?

[–] TotallynotJessica 16 points 11 months ago (28 children)

Accelerationism at this point is merely an argument for liberals to convince people who are not fascists to support their liberalism as a lesser danger.

You make me mad. You make me mad because you've deluded yourself into believing fatalistic death cult BS, willing to drag other people down with you. Liberals might be deluded and wrong, but you're honestly worse. Liberals are more open minded than you, more hopeful than you, and believe in building a popular coalition. I don't care if you recognize capitalism is bad, you're not helping anyone do anything about it.

"Eat shit and die" is what I'm hearing from your empty justifications for inaction. I've barely started living my life, and you're saying "it just needs to end. Sorry. Nothing to be done." I like my life, unlike you apparently, so I'm going to reject your ideas emphatically.

Fuck your opinion. Just like fascist dribble, it deserves no respect.

[–] bouh 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Another thing : my view is not doomerism. I merely stop to fight for the liberals. Chaos bring opportunities. Liberals are doing everything to keep a status that's rottening. They are actively supporting fascism to keep the status quo. I'm not sure if they're blinding themselves into believing that they can keep the fascism away, or if they are actively pushing for it willingly. But it's happening.

I'm not saying that all is lost and there's no hope. I'm saying that helping the liberals today is only helping the fascists tomorrow. Things will get worse. That's not doomerism, that's a hard fact. Something must be done now.

[–] TotallynotJessica 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, but there aren't opportunities in chaos. That's some cringe edgelord larping. There are no opportunities gained in chaos, only death and suffering.

Honestly, your goofy accelerationism seems more like the cope of someone that's given up what they see as "the first game." You think you can come back in the second game and win a best of 3. Again, I'm sorry to disappoint, but there probably won't be a 2nd game for you unless you're incredibly lucky.

I'm not betting on a second chance. There's no benefit to not trying my hardest on game 1 if won't do much to improve my chances of making it to game 2. If your strategy is to hide, you're a privileged coward. Most people won't have that chance, and betting that you aren't most people is wistful thinking.

[–] bouh 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And what are you doing in this game 1 exactly to succeed? Voting for the lesser evil? Unless something is in the bag for the next term to radically change how it's going, it'll only get worse. I don't see how a liberal will radically change anything.

This battle is lost already. It was lost when Biden was made the candidate. Now it's time to prepare for the next battle. Because fighting this one will only make you weaker for the next one.

[–] TotallynotJessica 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Fortunately, voting isn't that much of a burden relatively speaking. It can also be a springboard for popularizing leftist ideas and attitudes. There aren't significant downsides except leftist pride(which is less than worthless). I'll vote for that lesser evil AND prepare for a potential disaster because they aren't mutually exclusive you arrogant block of lead.

[–] bouh 1 points 11 months ago

Because you don't see the downside doesn't mean there aren't. It's ironic that you talk about arrogance when you're so blind, disrespectful and comfident in your opinion.

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