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Politicians constantly talk about stopping the illegal immigrants that are coming from Mexico, but putting a wall has never and will never be a solution since the reason why so many displaced keep coming across the border is mostly to escape the crime, corruption, inequality, and violence of they have to live in their home countries. The worst part is that most of these terrible things is that happen in third world countries are rooted in constant subversion by developed countries, primarily the US. I feel like since we caused this (even if in part) we should help stop it now, even if we didn't publicly admit guilt to save face.

So, how do we do it? Do we straight up invade Mexico and go on a full out war against the cartels like we did against Osama Bin Laden?

If not, why not? And, is there anything that can be done?

I would like to keep things civil. Please, let's keep this respectful as I know this is a tough issue and there is anger on both sides of this issue.

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[–] PP_BOY_ 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

While it's true that the U.S. is the most convenient market for Mexican cartels, it's worth knowing that it's far from the only one. Mexican drug cartels have major connections to markets across the globe. and that Mexico specifically is the de facto administrator of drug trade in the western world. For example, a drug bust in India found fentanyl that had been purchased in Mexico from China. . That's not the sort of arrangement that the US can ever hope to do away with through domestic legislation without undermining the autonomy of dozens of states around the globe.

While removing the cartels' access to the American market via decriminalization would certainly take away a lot of funds, let's not act like black market operations don't exist in legal markets anyway.

In this hypothetical situation where the US is responsible for Mexico's drug cartel problem (which I disagree with), I don't think the road to success ends at the US legalizing drugs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

The US is the key source from war on drugs legislation and still a major fighter against efforts to decriminalize and legalize drugs. If it would change its attitude, it would open up political space for other countries that typically follow suit to the US. Also it would serve as evidence that legalisation with good regulation is better than criminalisation.

[–] HurlingDurling 4 points 11 months ago

This is true, another example is Ecuador who is fighting an incredible surge in gang violence because the Mexican cartels are now operating in the south American country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

When there's a clean supply of drugs green-lit by a superpower like the US, wouldn't it naturally be exported to other countries? Sure, the cartel would still exist, but for the drug trade specifically, better availability of safe, quality drugs internationally would reduce international demand for cartel drugs, no? Wouldn't other countries start manufacturing said drugs to import into the US as well, making it easier to fill the black market with regulated products?