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“The president has been adamant that we need to restore Roe. It is unfathomable that women today wake up in a country with less rights than their ancestors had years ago,” Fulks said.

Biden has been poised to run on what has been described as the strongest abortion rights platform of any general election candidate as he and his allies look to notch a victory in the first presidential election since Roe v. Wade was overturned in 2022.

Last month, Biden seized on a case in Texas, where a woman, Kate Cox, was denied an abortion despite the risk to her life posed by her pregnancy.

“No woman should be forced to go to court or flee her home state just to receive the health care she needs,” Biden said of the case. “But that is exactly what happened in Texas thanks to Republican elected officials, and it is simply outrageous. This should never happen in America, period.”

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[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Okay, explain exactly how Biden would have been able to ban assault weapons, cut insulin costs and expand student loan forgiveness without congress. And without SCOTUS blocking it. I'd honestly like to know.

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to say a thing that would be considered entirely reasonable if we were talking about any other profession, but since we are talking about the powerful, will be disregarded:

That is not my job. That is the president's job. I should not be expected to come up with a strategy to solve their problems. When they tell me they are going to do something, and then fail to do so, they did a bad job.

I used to think like you do. I used to think I was savvier than all the naive people who wanted things from their politicians, and criticized the politicians when they didn't deliver, because how could they have? But over time I've realized that I was being duped. That I should stop arguing that better things aren't possible, because when people believe that, it comes true.

A criticism I'll head off: I understand I can't vote for them and forget it. I'm not advocating for reduced civil engagement; it's our job to protest and agitate.

[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Please provide evidence that I think I am "savvier than all the naive people who wanted things from their politicians and criticized politicians when they didn't deliver."

Unless that was a lie. Was it a lie that I think the way you used to think?

[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik 6 points 10 months ago

Sure, in response to this statement that is a criticism that Biden did not deliver:

This all sounds like shit he should have done in his first term if he wanted Dems to have any faith in him whatsoever.

You said:

You seem to think a president can act unilaterally. Or that Joe Manchin and Kirsten Sinema weren’t holding the senate by the balls until the house got taken by Republicans two years ago.

I don't think it's unfair to say you think it is naive to believe that the "president can act unilaterally", and the natural converse of naivety is being savvy.

Anyway, I fail to see the point of arguing with someone who thinks I am a liar, so I will bow out of this conversation. Have a nice day. Believe it or not, I do sincerely wish you well.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Because that's how politics has worked for centuries. Is this your first day on planet Earth?

[–] Ensign_Crab 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And why should anyone believe his empty worthless promises he has no intention of doing anything about this time?

We all know that Democrats don't want to do shit about Roe. We know they'll find just enough no votes, or find some procedural bullshit excuse, and of course they will never get rid of the filibuster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I always wonder what proposal you people actually suggest that isn't Joe Biden walking into the Senate with a gun and pointing it at Manchin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I hadn't thought of that but it might actually work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

President doesn’t need to point a gun at someone, just a TV camera and the willingness to actually fight for something.

[–] go_go_gadget 1 points 10 months ago

Then explain to us morons what "prioritizing" abortion rights actually means. Because right now you're saying there's nothing he can do.

[–] Ensign_Crab 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If he knows he can't pass it and promises it anyway, why should we believe any of his promises? They're not worth the barely tepid air he expended to make them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And Trump didn't repeal Obamacare or make Mexico pay for a wall. Welcome to politics; politicians tend to speak more in wish-lists than easily actionable items.

[–] Ensign_Crab 0 points 10 months ago

Yes, Trump is full of shit. I'm not a Trump supporter. "Trump did it" is a shitty justification. Particularly from a party that refused to fire the parliamentarian in order to pass a minimum wage hike they don't want to pass on the grounds that it's what Republicans would do.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 0 points 10 months ago

And if they did speak in easily actionable items OP would immediately claim he's not going far enough and it's a milquetoast solution.