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He's not alone: AOC and others have argued lawmakers should be paid more in order to protect against corruption and make the job more accessible.

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[–] oDDmON 56 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What about the rest of us, who manage to scrape by on 60K or less after y’all have already taxed away a third of it? Where’s our relief you whiny shit? 💩

[–] MoonManKipper 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s about the market I’m afraid - someone with the attributes necessary to be an effective politician is likely to be able to use those skills to get a top management job in a big company and earn > 200k easily. If the gap between that and the politicians salary is too great then the only people who become politicians will have other strong other motives, which may be noble, but are often narcissistic or corrupt.

[–] schmikle 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We run into the same issue with university professors. Especially with studies like economics, engineering or IT.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, they do typically need staff that are paid by themselves. They need a residence in DC and their home state too.

[–] Pocketyeti 44 points 11 months ago

Build them dormitories in DC.

[–] Ensign_Crab 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let them live in their cars like Americans, then.

[–] Bernie_Sandals -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Not legally possible afaik

Edit: I'm wrong, thank you to Knightfox for providing context as to why exactly I am.

[–] Kolrami 5 points 11 months ago

Who makes the laws?

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's not legal to live in your car in many places. No one cares about making sure that doesn't happen in any other context, and we shouldn't care when it's the sociopaths who make sure wages stay low for everyone else.

[–] wolfpack86 3 points 11 months ago

They could easily change the laws to make it legal in dc

[–] Bernie_Sandals 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I meant because Representatives and Senators have a bunch of special rules around mailing and mailing addresses. I'm sure there's another rule requiring them to have an actual residence in DC as well, not just a PO Box, for example.

Edit: Also you do realize that if politicians aren't paid well by the government then all of their money will come from the private sector right?

[–] Ensign_Crab 2 points 11 months ago

I meant because Representatives and Senators have a bunch of special rules around mailing and mailing addresses. I’m sure there’s another rule requiring them to have an actual residence in DC as well, not just a PO Box, for example.

No one cares if anyone else can afford to maintain the minimum requirements for their job.

Also you do realize that if politicians aren’t paid well by the government then all of their money will come from the private sector right?

They already take bribes, and we already pay them too much. Every cent these pieces of shit earn that is greater than the minimum wage is an insult to everyone who works for a living in this country.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure there's another rule requiring them to have an actual residence in DC as well, not just a PO Box, for example.

This is not true, they don't have to have a residence in DC. Also, the House only is in session about 4-5 hours per day, ~160 days a year and they aren't actually required to show up (they might not get reelected if they are skipping but voters rarely actually care)

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2022/house/missed-votes

With that kind of schedule I'd fucking commute or like many congressmen, I'd sleep in my office.

[–] Bernie_Sandals 1 points 11 months ago

I stand corrected.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

The staff aren't paid out of the members' pockets. They have a budget for running their offices.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Agree with your point, but man I didn't realize 60k was considered "scraping by" now