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we live in hell

I don't even understand the pitch? you have the disc playing, in your hands, your ownership, no buffering, no subscription required. and they're saying....hey do you want a worse experience?

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[–] drahardja 357 points 8 months ago (18 children)

Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

[–] PopOfAfrica 130 points 8 months ago (7 children)

I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is the way (Jellyfin here)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm new to all this. Got any recommendations how to learn about Jellyfin?

[–] KpntAutismus 14 points 8 months ago

while often outdated, there are youtube tutorials. you could buy a cheap thinkcentre or set up a virtual machine to try it out.

personally, i run truenas scale with jellyfin as an "app" on my old PC.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (6 children)

So here's how I'm running things: At the top level it's a Raspberry pi 5 running raspbian, then everything else (jellyfin, prowlarr, radarr, sonarr, Usenet download software, etc) is a docker container. If that sounds like how you want to do it feel free to message me and I can try to get you on your feet

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m not who you replied to but I’ve been looking to set up something like this (I have a year old dedicated tower for hosting)

But I don’t know anything about docker, and it seems like a pretty big learn - is it required for the sonarr radarr and overseerr stuff, or just a nice to have thing?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not required it's just a lot smoother to update and sort things out. I recommend it but you don't need it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Honestly you can just run the app on your computer and tv connected devices. You don’t have to get fancy. I had trouble getting it setup to recognize and remember my library server address at first, but somehow I got it to work. I don’t like the UI though, and just use PLEX instead.

[–] PopOfAfrica 2 points 8 months ago

Of use jellyfin, but I have too many friends with only consoles that rely on my server. Sigh

[–] SkippingRelax 33 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn't consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

[–] Chee_Koala 8 points 8 months ago

I mean, steam made it work with games, you telling me that 6-7 of these giant media companies can't get it to work for video? The giving up part is that you have to embrace piracy (again?) to get to acceptable levels of service per dollar

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[–] lemmylommy 26 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Until Plex gets unbearable as well. They have been getting a lot shittier lately.

[–] victorz 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Other server software are available of course. The concept stays the same though. Very much recommend doing this. I'm halfway there, running Plex on my desktop PC and watching on my TV and other devices at home. Very comfortable setup. But I wish I had a small computer like a Pi or something, and a NAS to hold my drives. That way my desktop PC could rest.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Personally I was a fan of buying something like a Dell optiplex as my my NAS and Pihole but I do wish I had a better enclosure for the drives as any truly good one seems to be hundreds of dollars and mildly defeats the idea of self hosting being cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I just use an old crappy hand-me-down mid-tower gaming case I stuffed some drives into. As long as you can keep them cool, dusted, and away from vibrations (with HDDs), plenty of (used?)cases will have enough HDD slots to get you started.

Also old rackmount servers on ebay have plenty of slots I hear, but rackmount fans are waaaaay louder.

[–] victorz 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Room is my main issue. Living in an apartment I can't have large boxes/computers just standing anywhere. So it has to be very small and quiet. 😅 Pi should be perfect. Maybe mount it underneath my desk where my desktop PC is or something. 👍

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Right on, that makes sense!

If you're not planning on storing absolutely tons of data at first, you can also squeeze a lot into so-called "1 liter PCs". Traditional platform, a little more power and room than a Pi, and you can neatly tuck them away!

I hear they float around eBay quite readily these days.

Sadly haven't been hearing the very best things about the Pi 5, but earlier ones can do well as little servers.

I've been learning a lot from the self hosted podcast lately haha. Also one of the hosts runs this site (which I happened to find first) that can be pretty helpful!

https://perfectmediaserver.com/

I remember some folks on reddit saying USB isn't the most reliable connection for long-term drives, but I'm not 100% sure what that was about. Maybe the connectors wear out?

Perhaps someone who knows more can enlighten me.

Best of luck! I hope you have a lot of fun. 😁

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's always Kodi! You don't have to update your media server software.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Nah, I'll just switch to Jellyfin.

[–] Z4rK 3 points 8 months ago

They hit my threshold of shittiness some years back and I’ve been enjoying Jellyfin ever since. It’s a much better alternative for most!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

I have my Steam Deck attached to my TV. It's great for watching pirated sports streams via web browser.

[–] frokie 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I still get Roku recommendations on plex content from my Apple TV. They are doing content recognition off of the hdmi input

[–] PopOfAfrica 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I use a dumb tv. Old 1080I tube tv.

[–] frokie 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Uff between ads and interlaced content?? I’d still try to find a dumb 1080p…

[–] PopOfAfrica 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Interlacing only sucks on progressive TVs because they have to interpolate and scale the Missing information causing artifacting, watching interlaced content on an interlaced television is actually unnoticeable from a progressive display in my opinion, perhaps less sharp, but still.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

or just get a cheap-ass android box (like xiaomi or google)

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[–] bigFab 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Protip: destroy your 'smart' TV.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jackhammer_Joe 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] CosmicCleric 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] ridethisbike 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The real protips are always in the comments

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[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You go ahead and destroy something that cost you hundreds of dollars. Be it a TV or cans of Bud Light, I'm not going to destroy something I already got out of some need for a moral victory.

I hate 'smart' TVs. I wish they didn't exist. But telling someone to destroy the one they already had- meaning that if they want to watch TV, they'll just have to buy another- doesn't really make much sense to me.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Or, if you must (cringe), use anonymous credentials, have a router level VPN, and maybe even run pihole. But much better to just hook up a PC to your TV and run all of your apps off of that.

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