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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Edit for those curious why I shared this: Today [email protected] was popping off with a lot of "No war but class war" memes and they were getting a lot of support from the people over there.

I tried to share this there as well only to find out that apparently I was banned over there last week and I still have a week left in my ban. (Never knew I was due to never being told I was banned?)

Only reason I even found out I was banned over there was due to checking the modlogs for lemmy.ml after I noticed my post was gaining no ground.

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[–] Depress_Mode 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (8 children)

You literally admit to being owned, and yet think that to free ourselves of that ownership is to hurt the civil rights of our owners? That’s some real obsequious and subservient shit right there. They hold an absurd amount of power over you and all you can think to say is “won’t somebody please think of the wealthy???”

That’s like saying it’s against a thief’s civil rights when you come to take back what they stole from you.

The rich control where you get to live, how much you get to eat, they control how much you earn, they destroy the Earth for profit, they pay no taxes, they write the laws (which also makes it easier for them to imprison you), they run the government, they detest you and view you as lesser-than, they withhold food/shelter/water/etc. up to and including death if you can’t pay, they steal your wages, they hoard wealth to the detriment of others, they fight to reduce benefits to the poor, and much, much more. Somehow, the conclusion you’ve reached is if we put an end to all that, it would violate their civil rights? That’s an absolutely garbage take, how blind can you be? Has it never crossed your mind that the rich are violating your civil rights even as I type this? Like, they literally run your whole life, you think they don’t leverage that against our own rights? If bringing them to the same level as everyone else seems like cruel and unusual punishment, then what about the people who have to live in instability every day as a result of the damage the rich have wrought?

The Nazis did all that stuff, too. Were their civil rights violated by the resistance and the allies? Same for the apartheid government of South Africa, what of them? I suppose Nelson Mandela must have been a great oppressor in your mind when he went to war with apartheid, seeing as the ruling class could no longer wield power of that kind over the people.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Depress_Mode 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Elaboration is good, actually.

Ya got me, though, lol. What I wrote above is nothing compared to some comments I've written before. Some things I have a lot to say about and some things are worth speaking at length about. That, plus a sprinkling of ADHD. Besides, a little reading never hurt anyone and it's not like it's mandatory or anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Being brief and clear with what you say is an art

An art I struggle with a lot (also ADHD)

One of the key benefits of being brief and clear is that when people try to engage with what you say they'll have a much harder time steering the conversation away from the topic at hand

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