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Approval of divisive Alaska oil project upheld in blow to US climate goals
(www.theguardian.com)
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Crazy how you people think it's going to come to that.
I'm just going to move where it's safe.
Sounds neat. Gonna grow all your own food and just live off the land?
If that's what it takes. We've done it before.
🤣🤣🤣
Good for you, buddy. Good for you.
Thanks. It's better than sitting around and dying because other people didn't solve my problems for me.
There's a solution. It's just not a peaceful one. And when we don't act on that solution, there will be no corner of the planet safe from hunger, thirst, sickness and desperation.
Whatever resources and whatever security you think you can muster on your little slice of salvation will not be enough.
What do you think the solution is? If it's "kill the rich," I got some bad news for you. Who takes their place? This is what I mean by a cultural shift. As long as we pride ourselves on funneling as much wealth to as few people as possible, these problems will not go away. In fact, they will continue to get worse.
Lol, speak for yourself.
Corporate pollutors are protected by conservatives. Getting rid of conservatives will involve violence. If we are successful in voting them out, then they will become violent. If we are unsuccessful in voting them out, then they will use their postions to oppress us... Which leads to violent resistance. When that fails, then we also try to relocate and brace for the trouble ahead.
That's where we find neighbors with opposing ideologies who have resources we need. I blame conservatives squarely for the destruction of the environment. As such, I do not see conservative neighbors as humans. I see them as resources. So, when you move, make sure not to move near me or I might want a cup of sugar from my new neighbor! 😀
Lol, what? Neither side wants to stop using fossil fuels because it helps keep America ahead of its adversaries.
Here, fresh off the presses: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/09/alaska-willow-oil-drilling-environment
Hate to say it, but you've fallen for the tribalism meme. Try to be more independent to get a clearer picture of the world around you.
Democrats and republicans are just looking out for different rich people. In many ways, they're just looking out for the same rich people.
Progressives are the only ones who fight for meaningful change, which is why there are so few of them and they aren't taken seriously by the majority. We, as a society, do not want to solve these problems. We care more about looking good in front of our greedy and entitled peers.
Biden is a conservative. Neo-liberals are conservatives. Most Democrat politicians, are neo-liberal/conservative.
Progressives would be the answer if there were enough of us. But it seems there may not be.
Sometimes violence really is the answer. Never in history has conservatism been cured by pacifism.
Definitely need a massive cultural shift to the point of things looking nothing like they do today in terms of power and government.
We would be swimming upstream... No more like a goldfish trying to swim up and open firehose.
So I predict that we won't do much until we hit a billion or two dead (maybe 50-75 heard? Idk). Hopefully we will start to take real action before governments are collapsing from climate refugees and death. If not then we will keep dying off and the problem solves itself as greenhouse gas emissions plummet by several orders of magnitude.
Better put that plan in action fast.
Some fun links from the World Economic Forum and United Nations:
Global freshwater demand will exceed supply 40% by 2030 and 90% of global top soil and arable land is at risk of depletion by 2050.
And don't have kids.
Lol. I'll move when the time is right.
Haha. You're one of those people.
People like you, who willingly create children just to watch them suffer, disgust me.
Lol, what? I think you need some fresh air, man.
No just move where it's safe for the remainder of my lifetime. Which is only like 50 more years at best. And have no kids.
So is everyone else. Or did you not realize people do their best to move out of danger?
Difference is most people will wait until it's too late.
Those who get in early will be in a prime position to take advantage of those who don't.
I really hope we go extinct.
Don't worry, you probably won't last long.
Yeah, I hope so too. I don't want to have to live being taken advatage of by people who see I'm a disabled woman.
Lol, this isn't true but I'm not going to sit here and argue with you.
Just wait a few years and we can both see if our worst fears come to fruition.
Have a good day.
Oh yeah, refugees desperate to get somewhere never cause a problem for those living in that place. You'll be fine for sure.
I'll be better off than you, that's for sure.
I'd rather be dead quickly than torn apart by an angry mob who don't like the fact that I've been living a sustainable life while they're desperate to survive.
But hey, maybe you like the glint of torchlight on the pitchforks.
You really have an active imagination, lol.
I would love to revisit this with you in 40 years if I'm still alive and still remember any of this lol
Or I know history. What do you think happened to the people living safely in Palestine when Jews were desperate to get out of Europe? Desperate people who want a safe place to live ends up with you getting kicked off your land and possibly killed even though you were there first.
When the planet becomes uninhabitable except for a few small areas, where do you think all the people are going to go? What do you think the people not allowed in are going to do once they finally get in to the people who kept them out?
Sure bud. You 'know history' and that's how you can predict my death.
You might want to go outside for a bit. See the real world, not just the one in your head.
It really sounds like you're treating your predictions as fact, which isn't healthy.
That's how I am predicting the death of anyone who thinks they'll survive this with a good life, looking down on the peasants.
Cool.
Shooting as many “refugees” in the face coming for my shit until I run out of ammo and am eventually overwhelmed sounds like a pretty metal way to go. This is fun! I’ll call myself “Burt” and I’ll get a dog a name him “Samason”. I’ll have a huge garden full of pumpkins and butterfly flowers.
You do you. I'm not planning on ever murdering anyone for any reason. I was raised to believe murdering people is wrong.
I did too! Was her name “Mom” by any chance? Small world! Common sense taught me that “murder” happens in pretty obvious circumstances. Having my own kids taught me that I would kill a mother fucker super fast if they presented a threat to my wife or kids. Learning is fun.
Generally, you shouldn't get a thrill out of doing something like that. It shouldn't be an enjoyable activity like you imply.
Cool, which planet are you liking right now?
Oh honey, nowhere is safe.
Even Nunavut?
Yeah climate change isn't making Nunavut more livable either
Yukon would be a much better pick