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Legal analysts say Trump admitted that the intent in financial representations he made was to convince lenders to loan him money.

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[–] cuibono 128 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Imagine being this genius' lawyer

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A plausible sounding article I read stated that his lawyers knew from the start that they didn't have a chance of winning anyway. This whole thing is just theater to try and stall as long as possible to buy time until the election.

I'm sure they've already got plans to cheat their way to a "victory" on that front as well.

[–] emolr 22 points 1 year ago

But also taking time to give him a proper trial ensures that the final ruling is constitutional and can't risk being declared a mistrial later on.

[–] guacupado 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His own lawyers declined to question him lmao Knew he'd just make things even worse.

[–] stochasticity 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't it pretty typical for defendents to not take the stand?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a civil, not criminal trial. Can't self incriminate if it's not a criminal trial, so the 5th amendment doesn't apply (not sure how it works if there's other trials ongoing with cross interest in testimony).

[–] JustZ 6 points 1 year ago

The fifth Amendment would not apply to the allegations in the civil complaint. It's still applies to his testimony with regard to uncharged criminal conduct. In other words, he cannot be required to testify in the civil case to something that would incriminate him in an uncharged criminal matter. At least that's my understanding as an attorney, however, I admit I never have to deal with this issue and the one time it almost came up, the other lawyer never asked my witness the right questions.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hope they got paid up front...

[–] FuglyDuck 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Narrator: “they didn’t.”

(Which really goes to show how incompetent they are.)

[–] A_Random_Idiot 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Only people Trump ever paid on time, or at all, was businesses connected to the Russian Mob.

[–] FuglyDuck 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

exactly. which is why competent lawyers are staying away. Even moderately incompetent ones would demand payment upfront.

[–] A_Random_Idiot 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Only lawyers willing to take up trumps case, are people who think the fame of being associated with him will benefit them in the future.

Which says all you need to know about their intellectual capacity.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It’s reached a point where now I’m instantly skeptical of any lawyer who starts going on the news circuit while a case is on-going - they’re looking for fame, not to talk about the case.

[–] jaybone 4 points 1 year ago

They’ll capitalize on their 15 minutes of MAGA fame and write a book or run for office or whatever.

[–] TheDoozer 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nah, they got paid in "exposure" (to ridicule, sanctions, and indictments!)

[–] FuglyDuck 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

exposure doesn't pay the bills.

[–] andrewta 1 points 1 year ago

On only fans it does

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People keep saying this but honesty if you dont have anything going for you... Why not do it for free?

I know bugger all about law but surely everyone will know you in the profession, and if you mange to do anything close to a good job, then you get some kind of credibility from it?

Seems like a yolo opportunity for anyone wanting to make a name for themselves.

[–] Cypher 24 points 1 year ago

Ahh the good old “exposure “ argument.

It’s refreshing seeing it applied to lawyers instead of artists.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this level there is much more to lose than gain. Trump can literally threaten your law license. The exposure isn’t worth the risk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

your client can do this?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm beginning to think MAGA stands for make attorneys get aneurisms.

[–] dyathinkhesaurus 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Sure, that's already happened. Watching Trump jeopardize Chris Kise's legal career with games on the stand tho.... This may be the first time a defense attorney just pops a blood vessel wanting to scream "SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU'RE MAKING IT WORSE YOU RIDICULOUS FUCKNUT"

[–] jmsy 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His lawyer went to a law school that doesn't require LSAT scores 😆

[–] JustZ 3 points 1 year ago

Yale or Harvard?

[–] Illuminostro 2 points 1 year ago

She's been auditioning for a spot on Fox the entire time.