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Sadly Reddit is back to it's normal numbers and the subs are being activated again, so nothing will change for the better
I think it is very plausible that the numbers only appear to be back to normal. I agree probably nothing will change but at the very least I am not using reddit any more - and I feel like I have seen a similar sentiment from other users of Lemmy/kbin.
Yeah, I think at this point, regardless of what happens on Reddit, Lemmy/KBin seem to have a decently active base and speaking only for myself, I'm not planning on even lurking on Reddit ... the most I'll do is hit a link that I find on Google or that gets linked elsewhere.
For me, there is plenty of new content popping up in the Fediverse to keep me interested, I'd just like too see more people commenting. Then, I realize I need to be the change I want to see, so am attempting to become more active than I was on Reddit and actively engage in more conversations (ex: this post :-D ).
Lemmy/kbin has what 220k to reddits 800m
In all fairness- I kind of want a bunch of the reddit users... to STAY on reddit, away from lemmy.
The conversation quality recently on reddit has went WAAAY down.
And the conversation quality in the fediverse is fantastic!
That isn't the way the Internet works. If the 220k lemmy users were the most active out of the 800m, then reddit is basically dead.
Is it really that high? That's pretty impressive for what has it been, 2 weeks?
I know a lot of people have said this, but I'm thinking once the 3rd party apps go dark we might get another spike here
Lemmy/kbin is over 1m now. Growing at about 200-300k per day over the last week or so.
The 1m+ figure is mostly bots flooding open instances though, real figures are probably closer to 200-300k
True, but reddit's portion of bots is also massive. Anecdotally I saw bots constantly in reddit's comments. I have yet to see one in the fediverse so far.
I saw a tl;dr bot yesterday and I was so surprised! Most of the time I hate bots but that one is actually pretty valuable I think.
Sort by new, you see them a bit more. Seems mods are on top of things cleaning them up though.
How much of that growth happened over the last few weeks vs it’s lifetime though compared to Reddit?
Before the current Reddit fiasco the top Lemmy instance had at most hundreds of active users. A few dozen thousands of total users network wide.
I first heard of Lemmy (and made my lemmy.ml account) about three years ago.
Personally I think things have changed for the better, I’ve been waiting for a Reddit alternative for years and only found kbin through the blackout. Seems we’ve got sustainable numbers and a decent community.
A small win but still a win.
Reddit lost some of it's most committed users, though. It's also solidly not 'cool', not that it was ever cool-cool, I mean that it's reputation has been harmed among their target market.
I wonder if Reddit will ever launch/acquire-and-rebrand a spin-off, like how Instagram is where younger people went to get away from Facebook.
It seems likely since they already have or will end up with executives or shareholders in pretty much the same group as other SV tech companies. It seems like reddit has fair potential for growth ahead of it though, while Zuckerberg copies or purchases other apps in light of Facebook's old core product and users essentially dying out, and the unpopularity of facebook with younger people.
Wait and see what happens when the third party apps don't work. Sure some will install the crappy official app being forced upon them but the cool kids will be looking for the next big thing.
Here's to hoping all the narcissistic types who lash out at anything that even slightly inconveniences them (cough Reddit protests cough) stay there.
Social media sites go in cycles. I think we're nearing if not the end then the regression of sites like Reddit, Twitter, and Facebook.
I'm enjoying Lemmy, but I think perhaps it needs to do more to differentiate itself from Reddit by being better in some major way if users are going to move to it. Right now it's essentially just decentralised Reddit, but if it develops in the right way, that could be enough. I think it depends on how easy it is to find and filter content, contribute and avoid seeing the things or people you don't want to, as well as what kind of communities grow around major instances.
I would rather have less content and a better user base, personally. As long as there is continual modest growth and sustainability.
What they do there can stay there, imo.
It might be back to normal numbers, but that's until the API charges kick in and apps like Infinity stop working or start not to be fre?
It’s not even normal numbers, if you look at ads traffic (the real money maker) that one remains down from before the protest.
Where did you find info on that? I didn't know it was public.
There were a couple of articles about it.
See https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/88139/Reddit-traffic-returning-normal-sort-of and https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration/t/84902/As-Reddit-Crushes-Protests-Its-User-Traffic-Returns-to-Normal
I just wish everyone would quit trying to turn this into Reddit. We left Reddit because we don't like what it is/is becoming. Let's not rush to make this an identical copy, ya know?
I think the issue is that reddit was the internet go-to for discussions and mindless scrolling... and porn. It filled the need.
These other sites are getting members wanting to fill that need, but reddit is all we have to go off on how to do it as its the only one that did it.
I'm curious about the normal numbers thing. I left the website (I needed to anyway, was obsessively checking it in my free time) and I figure there must be at least a few like me. So if that's true, how could it be back to original numbers after such a fiasco?
Most users don't know a fiasco happened, or care, really. You gotta remember your average user doesn't comment at all and really just scrolls while upvoting posts every once in a while. Their engagement is far more casual.
We’ve got a populated Lemmy now.
Here’s a question. Who’s monitoring Reddit’s traffic and activity other than Reddit? What incentive do they have to be honest about those numbers?
Seriously, I know for a fact it's not true. They are at least short my traffic. Checkmate atheists.
Do you think it’s worth looking at the change post June 30th though? 3PA’s still active for now