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[–] logicbomb 176 points 10 months ago (12 children)

Also, any number whose digits sum to a multiple of 3 is divisible by 3. For 51, 5+1=6, and 6 is a multiple of 3, so 51 can be cleanly divided by 3.

[–] Vorticity 44 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I'd forgotten this trick. It works for large numbers too.

122,300,223÷3 = 40,766, 741

1+2+2+3+2+2+3 = 15

[–] [email protected] 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

threw up and died while reading this

[–] TokenBoomer 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] TokenBoomer 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That is way too accurate. Lol

[–] saltesc 2 points 10 months ago

^ This. The thing about Arsenal is they always try and walk it in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Also works with 9s!

[–] FlexibleToast 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The neat part is that if you add the numbers together and they're still too large to tell, you can do it again. In your example, you get 15. If you do it again, you get 6, which isn't the best example because 15 is pretty obvious, but it works.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] GladiusB 11 points 10 months ago

Get 6 apples. Duh.

[–] postmateDumbass 2 points 10 months ago

Prove it for 2, then un-distribute.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

There is a mathematical proof that 1 + 1 = 2 so surely you could make a proof for 6 ÷ 3 = 2

[–] paddirn 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

...I got better

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck you and take an upvote for coming here to state what I was going to when I immediately summed 5+1 to 6 and felt clever thinking "well I do know it's not prime and divisible by 3" Shakes fist

I'll get you NEXT time logicbomb!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Posted the same info. Silly me

[–] beckerist 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same with 9. There are rules for every number at least through 13 that I once knew...

[–] logicbomb 23 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I only know rules for 2 (even number), 3 (digits sum to 3), 4 (last two digits are divisible by 4), 5 (ends in 5 or 0), 6 (if it satisfies the rules for both 3 and 2), 9 (digits sum to 9), and 10 (ends in 0).

I don't know of one for 7, 8 or 13. 11 has a limited goofy one that involves seeing if the outer digits sum to the inner digits. 12 is divisible by both 3 and 4, so like 6, it has to satisfy both of those rules.

[–] beckerist 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

7 is double the last number and subtract from the rest

749 (easily divisible by 7 but for example sake)

9*2=18

74-18=56

6*2=12

5-12= -7, or if you recognize 56 is 7*8...


I'll do another, random 6 digit number appear!

59271

1*2=2

5927-2=5925

5*2=10

592-10=582

2*2=4

58-4=54, or not divisible

I guess for this to work you should at least know the first 10 times tables...

[–] logicbomb 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Another way to tell if 59271 is divisible by 7 is to divide it by 7. It will take about the same amount of time as the trick you're presenting, and then you'll already have the result.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But at least I seems like you could do that trick in your head

[–] logicbomb 4 points 10 months ago

If you have no interest in the result of the division, then you can also do the division in your head, without retaining the result, with about the same effort.

[–] Frozengyro 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure every digit has rules to figure it out if you get technical enough.

[–] logicbomb 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I looked up a rule for 7, and it seems like it would take about the same amount of time as actually dividing the number by 7.

Meanwhile, it looks like the rule for 8 is to see if the last 3 digits are divisible by 8, which seems like a real time save for big numbers.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

11 is alternating sum
So, first digit minus second plus third minus fourth...
And then check if that is divisible by 11.

[–] Iron_Lynx 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

And since both 3 and 17 are prime numbers, that makes 51 a semiprime number

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Which is not really rare under 100.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Which is why it feels kind of prime, imho. I don't know if other people get this, but I get a sense of which two-digit numbers are prime probably because of how often they show up in times tables and other maths operations.

3*17 isn't a common operation though and doesn't show up in tables like that, so people probably aren't generally familiar with it.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot 1 points 10 months ago

Do do do, do do do do.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does this also work the other way round, i.e. do all multiples of three have digits that sum to a multiple of 3? All the ones I've checked so far do, but is it proven?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, an integer is divisible by 3 if and only if the sum of its digits is divisible by 3.

For proof, take the polynomial representation of an integer n = a_0 * 10^k + a_1 * 10^{k-1} + ... + a_k * 1. Note that 10 mod 3 = 1, which means that 10^i mod 3 = (10 mod 3)^i = 1. This makes all powers of 10 = 1 and you're left with n = a_0 + a_1 + ... + a_k. Thus, n is divisible by 3 iff a_0 + a_1 + ... + a_k is. Also note that iff answers your question then; all multiples of 3 have to, by definition, have digits whose sum is a multiple of 3

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Thank you for this detailed response 🙏

[–] GladiusB 4 points 10 months ago

Username checks out

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Damn, logicbomb indeed!

[–] Fades 2 points 10 months ago

Oh, neat trick!