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What the actual fuck? I didnt know he'd said that. Isnt this the quiet part out loud.
Conservatives do that quite regularly.
Problem is that people often don't listen.
Even worse many agree
Yeah. A lot of Canadians hold suuuper regressive views about indigenous people. Try driving through or stopping for gas in a reserve with friends or family sometime and see how the react.
Because way, waaaaaay more will react, and react poorly, than you're probably prepared for.
He's said a lot of awful things. He's hung out with fascists and Nazi's. He's literally the bottom of the barrel. During the pandemic he pretty much said that the cerb was bad and Conservatives would never do that as Conservatives don't help people.
We've gotten to the rate of progress where even a normal conservative backbencher from 20 years ago will have said stuff that's now extremely dated. 20 years as an MP is right around what you need to rise to leader the normal way, I think.
Edit: To be clear, I think this is good. If you don't want to be painted a bad way by history try being on the right side of it.
I expect this clip to appear in Liberal and NDP ads during the next election campaign.
He also said afterwards that he was wrong. So there's that.
Yes. That's the plan.
He says he was wrong, the centrist media says "Well, that's all fine and good then, he's certainly prime minister material and no mistake!".
Meanwhile, the fascist dogwhistle was already blown.
Exactly.
And if you try to call it on that, they go "you're twisting my words", without actually ever explaining how their words are twisted.
It happened 15 years ago. Nobody would have even remembered it happening at all if this CPC ad wasn't posted to remind us.
Why are we allowing political ads?
I'm sorry, aren't you one of the "hurr, durr, Trudeau blackface" crowd?
So NOW you believe people can change?
The current pm is a racist as well..... we elected him....
How do you figure that Trudeau is racist?
He dressed up as Aladdin once, so that means he hates brown people or something.
I dressed up as Davy Jones once. Means I must hate squid faced pirates!
I still don't understand why it was such a big deal...
I get that blackface is an issue in bigger productions because yeah, they should really cast a black actor instead of putting makeup on a white one, but this was (as I understand it) a high school play where an actor of the correct race was probably not available (I know it would've been hard to find where I went to school), and even then, it most definitely wasn't a paid gig, so the issue around stealing jobs is completely moot.
Is it insensitive? Oh yes. Is it actually hateful towards black / brown people? I don't think so.
"They should learn the value of hard work" is on a completely different level, IMO. As if they don't work as hard as anyone else.
I'm not a poilievre fan either. He too applauded the nazi. Practically our entire parliament did. I do not trust that he will change anything. I do not think Canada or the USA will survive the next 100 years.
When he applauded the guy, did Trudeau know?
Do you think Robert Downey Jr is racist too?
There is a difference there. RDJ is an actor playing a role that even he admits he wouldn't get away with now (as funny as it is). Trudeau is a world leader who is super anti racist and PC. It looks bad when he is a hypocrite who is a racist.
Wait, Iβm confused.
Did Trudeau do that after Robert Downey Jr or when he was leader?
Also you didnβt answer the question if Trudeau knew the guy fought with the Nazis?
Lol the mental gymnastics are strong
Sometimes a hypocrite is just a man in the process of changing
Before mimes get nervous, let's talk about Drama club and the notion of intent. "Both sides"-ing is such cheese.
So in other words he doesnt like that there was pushback.
He also has said that he doesn't know where to stand on certain issues to hold political advantage. These people have no principles.
How long afterwards? Shortly, or years down the line when he had to?
June 12th, 2008. The original doesn't state which day in June he said the remarks originally, but mathematically we can determine the recant was said no more than 12 days later.
Oh, okay. I'll put my pitchfork away then. A little bit anyway, "lazy 'injuns" was still a shitty thing to say and not promising from a prospective leader, regretted or not.