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In politics most people just critizise each other, but what did your local government actually do a good job on?

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[–] cricket97 -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

giving drugs to a drug addict is not helping them, sorry. and giving them money doesn't remove all negative externalities, that is a ridiculous statement. It just makes them less desperate for cash, they are still in a full blown addiction being controlled by the drugs.

[–] twelvefloatinghands 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. They're addicted. They're going to get the drugs one way or another. May as well minimize the harm.

[–] cricket97 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why don't you give them your money? Go minimize harm in your local community.

Addicts quit because they hit rock bottom. They get to a point where they cannot sustain their lifestyle. You will be preventing them from ever getting to that point and they will be able to sustain their addiction indefinitely. Until the money runs out and they are more addicted than when they started. Free money never lasts forever.

[–] twelvefloatinghands 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that?

[–] cricket97 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I fucking hate when nerds request a source for something that is clearly an opinion or common sense. What are you disputing?

[–] twelvefloatinghands 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Common sense is extremely subjective.

Is it really more effective to not help addicts than to use harm reduction methods?

"Facts over feels" and all that.

[–] cricket97 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There is a difference between harm reduction and giving addicts free drugs. You know this and are greatly oversimplifying the discussion.

[–] twelvefloatinghands 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Giving addicts free drugs is a subset of harm reduction. Honestly, at this point in the discussion, we need numbers to be productive.

[–] cricket97 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is the incentive to quit drugs if you are given them for free your entire life?

[–] twelvefloatinghands 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they're not stealing for money, supporting the black market, dying of overdoses, or spreading disease by sharing needles, and have consistent dosages and proximity to support programs, why quit?

Probably the massive social stigma and loss of positive effects due to built tolerance.

It would make the problem way less urgent at any rate.

(https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/opioids/responding-canada-opioid-crisis/safer-supply.html)

[–] cricket97 0 points 1 year ago

If they’re not stealing for money, supporting the black market, dying of overdoses, or spreading disease by sharing needles, and have consistent dosages and proximity to support programs, why quit? Probably the massive social stigma and loss of positive effects due to built tolerance.

Yeah sorry I'm not sure social stigma is going to stop addicts from using drugs. agree to disagree I guess.

[–] applejacks 1 points 1 year ago

"doing heroin is bad actually"

UHHH SOURCE? SOURCE? SOURCE? SOURCE? SOURCE? SOURCE?

[–] TrickedPrivacy 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I’d like to point out that it costs a society much less to supply one with heroin than it does to deal with all the thefts and crime that comes with the user having to fund an illegal black market, not to mention all the stabbings over drug territory.

We need to grow some balls and be adult about this situation, what we’re doing hasn’t worked for the last 50 years.

Misuse of Drugs act has been in place what 50 years now? Consumption rates have increased and so have people getting contaminated drugs/deaths.

Source you may ask? Oh.. only the National Crime Agency on gov.uk

https://nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/nsa-drugs

And we may be nerds but if that means I know what I’m talking about then fuck yeah, beats staying in ones box and regurgitating the statue-quo. - When frontline police say we’re making the problem worse one has to start asking questions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perhaps it would be better if you didn't spoke about things you understand shit about

[–] cricket97 -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Good comment bro. Bet you felt smart writing that. Go give all your money to drug addicts bro its what the science says is best

[–] TrickedPrivacy 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe on Cloud 9… You set up services like the above source that people can access. It’s Canada and works quite well.

Give your money directly to addicts 😂 I dunno where you heard that one mate but science definitely doesn’t say you should do that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂