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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you don't vote Trump will likely win because old people do vote and most will vote for Trump. So get out and vote against Trump at least.

[–] PeckerBrown 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This old fuck will never vote for that Putin-sucking, diaper-filling-while-denying-it, corrupt asshole of a traitor, but I agree with your message.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Amen, PeckerBrown! Release the peepee tapes! Expose the diapers!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The only reason why I have a hard time believing that's true is that he barely won last time and he's burnt a lot of bridges since then, not to mention killed a lot of his constituency with COVID.

Not saying you're wrong I just can't wrap my brain around it.

[–] baronvonj 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We couldn't wrap our brains around Trump winning the first time. Just vote in every election.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll repeat it in case anyone has missed it.

JUST VOTE IN EVERY ELECTION.

We have to go vote in every, single, election. The right spent the last 70 years cultivating a base full of ignorant bigots so they'd turn out to vote against black people and hippies. They even got hateful fuckers to run for boring things like school boards and city councils. That shit paid dividends for them as we're all witnessing today with a gerrymandered congress and school boards deciding they're not going to teach things because the truth hurts their feelings.

The only way we win long term is to go vote in every single election and drag the country back to the left (the real left, not the current crop of milquetoast corporate-democrats) so we can have a real conversation about things that really impact peoples lives, like ranked choice, wage theft, national healthcare, and UBI.

[–] Feathercrown 5 points 1 year ago

What you're missing is that many people will have that same attitude, and use it as an excuse not to vote. We aren't as motivated because he's not in office, so we need to remember what will happen if he gets back in.

[–] billiam0202 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And yet, Trump got even more votes the second time around, even after spending a literal year of his presidency golfing and tanking the economy by making COVID a partisan issue.

Trump represents the strong undercurrent of white grievance mixed with class warfare and religious faux-persecution that forms the basis of American fascism, and it's gaining traction.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Trump represents the strong undercurrent of white ~~grievance~~ arrogance

FTFY

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While there is an advantage among older Voters to Vote for whomever has an R next to their name, it is no where as pronounced as you are led to believe.

Age and generation
The aging U.S. electorate: A majority of Republican voters - and half of Democrats - are 50 and older

The U.S. electorate is aging: 52% of registered voters are ages 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996. This shift has occurred in both partisan coalitions. More than half of Republican and GOP-leaning voters (56%) are ages 50 and older, up from 39% in 1996. And among Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters, half are 50 and older, up from 41% in 1996.

Another way to consider the aging of the electorate is to look at median age. The median age among all registered voters increased from 44 in 1996 to 50 in 2019. It rose from 43 to 52 among Republican registered voters and from 45 to 49 among Democratic registered voters.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/06/PP_2020.06.02_party-id_2-01-1.png

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't Gen Z boys largely voting R? I don't think it works quite like you are suggesting. That presumes the party will just die out, but that's been predicted since like the 1980s and that just hasn't happened.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The general trend I've seen is older people tend to vote conservative and younger people tend to vote liberal. The senior population is expanding, and they vote.

I can't find any good data on it, but I believe seniors lean R. Either way young people need to vote.