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Republican men seem massively troubled about their masculinity — and that's literally causing death and suffering

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[–] MacGuffin94 105 points 1 year ago (7 children)

One thing I've learned is that if you have to announce something about yourself, and announce it loudly and repeatedly, it's very much not true.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've been told drinking coffee with cream or sugar isn't manly which I find funny, like who cares? We all have taste buds dude. IMO a "real" man isn't concerned about what others think, he is comfortable being himself.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Know what's manly? Doing whatever the fuck you want.

[–] iron__giant 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd like to amend that with "whatever the fuck you want, so long as you're not hurting anyone," because plenty of these dudes live by doing whatever they want, but they don't give two shits about how it affects everyone else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think what you're saying is more about being HUmanly. Once you try to assert what manliness is and isnt it becomes clear that gender is a social construct and that people should just do what they feel is right regardless of what abstract groups they identify with

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Pretty much I think the only person who's opinion you should care about is your significant other you're going for. Literally who cares about anyone else's opinions lol, they aren't a part of your life.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I drink black coffee because I have a problem. Not because I’m trying to get +1 to my role in society

Imagine being so sensitive a little bit of lightness in your coffee is enough of a devaluation to your manhood to make it a thing 😫

[–] assassin_aragorn 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God this is like the whole "cocktails are girly, real men drink beers". I don't care, give me a Sex on the Beach or a rum and coke. Or a good beer. Life is way too short to drink something called bitter.

"It's literally called bitter!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, but Campari Soda is so good in summer

[–] BruceCampbellschin 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I fill a glass of International Delight Caramel Macchiato and add dark roast coffee as needed to thin it out. 1 to 1 1/2 ounces of coffee is the sweet spot.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not saying it's unmanly or anything, but sweet jebus that's a lot of sugar. It's like 5grams per tablespoon. That's like a third.

[–] BruceCampbellschin 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing manlier then diabetes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Not for manlyness reasons, but I would recommend not using creamer. The sugar content is so freaking high. Just add cream (milk or milk alternative) and sugar to taste. It'll be healthier. Ideally though, if you don't like coffee, find another way to get your caffeine fix. Get some caffeine pills or some powder that you can add to juice in the morning, which would be healthier to consume (though also high in sugar, and be careful what kind of juice, some are largely HFCS).

[–] geekworking 9 points 1 year ago

A guy who used to cut my hair was rumored to be a hitman for the mafia. Nice guy. Really mild mannered. Last person who you would ever suspect of killing people.

I actually believe the rumor because an actual hitman will make sure that he's the last person that you would ever suspect.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure about that. You may just be in an oppressive environment, like with trans people and their pronouns.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hypermasculinity’s “oppressors” include flowers, rainbows, other people choosing to wear dresses, a functioning government, and welfare.

Trans folks oppressors are the hypermasculine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not saying any specific group of people are always oppressed, just that if they are your previous statement is incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I understand your point. It’s just good to highlight the things that make these groups oppressed. For the hypermasculine it’s anything that hurts their little feelings, and for trans people it is actual real persecution. And only one of these groups goes around screaming about the victim complex these days 🙄

[–] Shardikprime 1 points 1 year ago

Why should diminishing others feelings be the go to resource? Are you now justifying their behaviours?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If you're pointing out imperfections in the argument, then you're automatically a radical example of the other side. /S

[–] MacGuffin94 6 points 1 year ago

Gotta take the statement in context of the thread. I am sure there are a lot of people in environments that they have to continuously assert themselves just to be heard let alone recognized. The cis white men who typically embody this toxic masculinity are not in an oppressive environment, they are creating the oppressive environment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Since Alpha and Omega = Beginning and End, I always think an alpha male is a beginner at the art of being a male human and we should help them to become better at it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Full release men with ongoing development are the best.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I do think self proclaimed "alpha males" need to be bullied about being still in development like some toddler. Or early Access game.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

And the projections. The constant insults are ones they practice in the mirror because that's the person it applies to the most