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What people don't get is that self-hosting a Discord-like is not a solution. The idea is to have a fallback in case the server goes down, and Discord serves that role well.
It's so the admins can communicate when the server is down. Would you rather they use Twitter?
Mastodon?
which instance?
Why does it matter?
https://joinmastodon.org/servers lists a lot of options.
Because it needs to be DDOS-resistant and be able to handle at least 128k users. Otherwise it's not a fallback in case lemmy.world is targeted again. There are groups who hate LW and still want to take it down, if they know that their alternative communication channel is also some other self-hosted service they're going to target that one too.
So please list one instance which would satisfy these criteria.
Isn't content from Mastodon federated across the instances? Meaning that LW could just open an account on any Mastodon server (not their own, to avoid to handle both at the same time in case of issues)?
Or are you saying that Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, making the server that would host the LW account a DDoS target?
Edit: you edited in the meantime, but I guess our exchange still makes sense
So what I understand is that you're proposing to play cat and mouse with DDOS attackers then?
Exactly.
Just to clarify, if someone is targeting LW, and Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, why wouldn't they attack mastodon.world as well?
Mastodon.world has 99,97% uptime: https://status.mastodon.world/
Because it's not being advertised as LW's alternative communication channel, hence they likely don't see the need to target it.
Don't we already have a Matrix Channel for that? Even if they wanted a lemmy.world specific Space it's still Far better than proprietary Discord. I mean isn't it already encouraged to link Matrix for secure messaging, why not just use a Space on Matrix for lemmy.world support and communication.
Why not use IRC in that case, like normal Internet persons?
This.... Is somehow different from Lemmy other than the chat vs forum aspect?
Uh He never said it has to be self-hosted though, so this already sounds like a strawman argument. Only one who has mentioned self hosting in this thread is you.
People want something that is secure and respects privacy, they could simply use the Matrix channel, or create their own Matrix space specific to lemmy.world , both of these would be better options for the users than to try and get them to use Discord which is a proprietary corporate service that is not only prone to security problems but also has some serious privacy concerns due to being corporate owned.
Snoo about to collect downvotes like pokemons
Bring it on!
An admin complaining about downvotes doesn't inspire confidence in the running of the instance.
it's a joke, if you didn't notice