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This is completely counter productive to growing Lemmy. I absolutely despise discord. Look at the network traffic it generates and tell me wtf they are doing. They won't tell you. Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist. Everything shared on the platform is lost in a black hole unavailable to the outside world and everything shared is a privacy nightmare. Posting this, pinning it here, and locking it is one of the biggest trolls possible. It pisses me off every time I log in. "Everyone else does it" is the excuse of idiots. Discord makes absolutely no sense to anyone that actually cares to look into it, read the user agreement, and ask sane questions about what they are doing.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] AlmightySnoo -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] AlmightySnoo 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why does it matter?

Because it needs to be DDOS-resistant and be able to handle at least 128k users. Otherwise it's not a fallback in case lemmy.world is targeted again. There are groups who hate LW and still want to take it down, if they know that their alternative communication channel is also some other self-hosted service they're going to target that one too.

So please list one instance which would satisfy these criteria.

[โ€“] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Isn't content from Mastodon federated across the instances? Meaning that LW could just open an account on any Mastodon server (not their own, to avoid to handle both at the same time in case of issues)?

Or are you saying that Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, making the server that would host the LW account a DDoS target?

Edit: you edited in the meantime, but I guess our exchange still makes sense

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So what I understand is that you're proposing to play cat and mouse with DDOS attackers then?

Or are you saying that Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, making the server that would host the LW account a DDoS target?

Exactly.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just to clarify, if someone is targeting LW, and Mastodon is as DDoS vulnerable as Lemmy, why wouldn't they attack mastodon.world as well?

Mastodon.world has 99,97% uptime: https://status.mastodon.world/

[โ€“] AlmightySnoo -1 points 1 year ago

why wouldnโ€™t they attack mastodon.world as well?

Because it's not being advertised as LW's alternative communication channel, hence they likely don't see the need to target it.