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"There’s no posse and there’s no retinue and there’s no family," says Chris Hayes on Trump's arraignment. "The guy is alone. He is solo rolling with the lawyers who hope his checks clear."

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The fascists aren't stupid. They see the writing on the wall so they're moving on. Completely expected and even if Trump gets the death penalty the threat is by no means gone. Trump is a symptom, not the disease itself.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Beard has a great quote from her book SPQR

“If the assassination of Julius Caesar became a model for the effective removal of a tyrant, it was also a powerful reminder that getting rid of a tyrant did not necessarily dispose of tyranny.”

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

An analogy I like: If you have a toxic, dangerous plant in your garden, like the Gympie Gympie maybe, do you remove it by snipping off the leaf bud at the very top, or do you pull it out roots and all?

[–] JustZ 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I leave it there, dripping in glyphosate, as a message to other weeds.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think that those are the only options. But I will think on it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think that my problem is that I don't agree with the analogy between the tree between the human. Every human, I believe, have a context to find personal change. And GimpyGimpy trees do not. And that is why I disagree with the premise.

[–] Klear 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The fascists aren’t stupid.

Citation needed

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Never assume the enemy is stupid. That's how you lose. If they were truly stupid they wouldn't have gotten this far and wouldn't even be a threat.

[–] RubberElectrons 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed. We can always look back at our over-prepping and laugh, or..

[–] FinalRemix 18 points 1 year ago

There's a distinction to be made between the fascists—the people in power pushing fascism—and the people voting for it. The latter are ignorant and stupid. The former are wringing the country dry for money and power.

[–] whereisk 5 points 1 year ago

Indeed, the fascists are monumentally stupid.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a major problem with the right wing, there is no principles or loyalty or anything. It’s not the major problem, it’s just one.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Additionally, a leader is just a tool used by a collective. The collective is in power, not the leader. Trump is no longer useful to them so he is being replaced, just like how a medieval king who fails to please his court of nobles is overthrown for a king that can.

Whether you can overthrow a leader simply depends on if you're part of the collective they serve or not. The reason the general public can't get rid of corrupt politicians or near universally hated people like Bezos or Elon, is because the collective that appoints them is not the public, but much like the medieval king, they only have to answer to a small group of modern day nobles (AKA the corporations, investors, and ultra rich in general).

It's the ruling class, not the individual ruler, that calls the shots. Always. Because a single person can never enforce their rule alone, it requires a group that collectively has sufficient power to enforce their collective rule.

[–] subarctictundra 1 points 1 year ago

This sounds eye openingly Putin-esque

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Absolutely. I was talking to a friend the other day and he suggested hiring a hitman through crowdfunding to shoot Macron. I told him, Macron is just a symptom. This hydra has a bunch of other heads ready to sprout, you'll get life for nothing

[–] spikederailed 2 points 1 year ago

I'm reminded of the NoFX song "the man I killed"

[–] TheLowestStone 6 points 1 year ago

Unfortunately, he's still vastly in the lead for the gop nomination.