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[–] electrogamerman 128 points 1 year ago (9 children)

100% this. Im German and I feel so strange that americans are choosing this guy for president. Not to be offensive, but damn.

[–] billwashere 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

As an American I feel that a majority of Americans loathe him. The issue lies in not all those people vote.

What scares me is that any Americans vote for him. How can you be so blinded and not see what a lying, cheating grifter that he is. The man is not intelligent, doesn’t read, is petty to a fault, vindictive, spiteful, narcissistic, nepotistic and just generally not a good person. Why would you choose that for a leader? It’s because you share those traits. That’s what scares me.

[–] voidMainVoid 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The issue lies in not all those people vote.

Partly. There's also the issue with the electoral college, because that makes some votes worth more than others (depending on where you live).

[–] billwashere 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well the fact someone in Wyoming voting is worth 3.5 times someone voting in California is a huge problem I agree.

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[–] 18_24_61_b_17_17_4 3 points 1 year ago

That's a huuuuuuuge issue.

[–] 1847953620 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know that they all share those traits per se, but just as damning not only to them but to our culture as well is our tolerance and even expectations that people in charge have those traits. I saw it everywhere when I lived in a deeply conservative small city, anyone with power (including company management) was beyond reproach. The status quo was defended harshly by the overwhelming majority. We have lost our values to greed by using the american dream as a trojan horse full of awful ideals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We can’t underestimate the hate for others that is behind these votes. It started as “owning the libs” and now is pretty much evolved to “eliminate the woke trans democrats”. That’s the part that’s scaring me these days. There is no platform for running the country, it’s all just piss off or erase the other side, figuratively and literally.

[–] Kage520 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No no you don't understand, I mean, sure the media makes him seem like he has those traits, but he's really a great guy! I mean I guess it's been proven he has those traits but who doesn't right? Isn't everyone deep down homophobic and racist and misogynist themselves?

And really if you think about it, God can use anything he wants right? So why would he pick the Catholic guy out there trying to invest in America? He definitely wants the guy who most looks like my own deep down beliefs. So no matter what you say, your argument is invalid because God is on my side.

..../s in case that was needed.

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[–] ATDA 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The crazy part is they think Biden makes the US look bad. When you present evidence to the contrary they say, "who cares what other countries think. "

[–] cmbabul 29 points 1 year ago (7 children)

My aunt thinks Jill Biden is controlling the country from the shadows and wants to run in place of Joe in 2024. We are fucked

[–] SCB 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd much rather vote for Jill than Joe.

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[–] CADmonkey 10 points 1 year ago

I remember people saying most similar things of Hillary Clinton during Bill's administration.

[–] FlyingSquid 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does she think about Nancy running things for Ronnie once the Alzheimers got too bad?

[–] cmbabul 3 points 1 year ago

That’s what I told my mother when she told me, but I doubt it’s gotten back to the source

[–] archiotterpup 6 points 1 year ago

I think it's time to have your aunt committed

[–] KnumbKnuts 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In fairness to your aunt, I have voted for Joe 3 times (2008, 2020, 2020), and even I think Joe is pretty close to weekend at Bernie's. He really needs to step aside for Newsom.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I wanna know if we're going to weekend at Bernie's someone, why not Bernie? Why has he not been on the ballot yet?

[–] billwashere 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well that’s just a stupid conspiracy theory. Well I guess they all are but this one seems particularly daft.

[–] cmbabul 1 points 1 year ago

That was my first reaction, I didn’t even know how to respond to it because it’s patently absurd on its face. Really hoping it’s not some sort of viral right wing bullshit code that hasn’t cycled out into the mainstream yet

[–] CitizenKong 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fellow German and... yeah. People joke about the Hitler comparisons, but you won't see us laughing. (I mean, in general, but that's a different topic.)

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

You should be offensive, we deserve it.

We picked an absolute trash human as our leader, a sizeable portion of which chose him specifically because they wanted him to hurt people (see: "he's not hurting the right people" woman.) That same group will often cite their desired outcome for any given thing is "to see liberals cry/get mad."

Hillary Clinton made a mistake by saying it out loud, but she was 100% correct when she said a large portion of Trump supporters are "a basket of deplorables." They absolutely are and are deserving of scorn.

I just hate how well propaganda works and how much money a random grifting asshole can make by parroting bullshit on YouTube, they boost each other and perpetuate this garbage era we're going through...

[–] MedicPigBabySaver 31 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Please remember he never won the popular vote.

[–] new_guy 21 points 1 year ago (6 children)

That too is scary. The guy didn't win and still ran the country. WTF

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The American political system is literally incomprehensible.

Everyone votes and then you find out who the winner is. And then, at some later point you find out who the president will be, and it's not necessarily the same person for some reason.

And yet apparently democracy has happened so that's all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the american federal government is easy to understand: everything is weighed in favor of rural conservative racists because when we were first designing the thing they realized that they were in the minority but that we'd lose the revolution without them. President? Racists get more of a say due to the electoral college. Senate? Half a million conservatives in Wyoming get just as many votes as 40 million liberals in California. House? House reps are capped at 435 permanently so as areas become more populous they end up with less representation per person. SCotUS? Even when it's running normally it's biased because the biased president and biased Senate pick them, but since Obama now Democrats need the presidency and a majority coalition in the Senate in order to pick justices. That's every branch of federal government, and recently they tried to make it even worse by making state legislatures (which always lean conservative because they gerrymander to hell and back) the sole authority on what constitutes a "fair" election. Given all the out and out treason that came from state legislatures after Trump got wrecked by Biden, I think we know what conservative state legislatures will do if they get to decide what constitutes "fair".

[–] Cabrio 5 points 1 year ago

Throw in a dash of first past the post, a pinch of gerrymandering, and baby we've got a minority government.

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[–] Cabrio 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That means sweet fuck all when he still gets the job.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Same here. I think this is what happens when education is underfundet. I'm happy we're back to G9 but we should definitely pay teachers more to counteract the lack of teachers and ensure every teacher has sufficient time to do their job well.

Otherwise people cannot be taught to think critical, question "why is he saying X?" instead of just weather it is true or not. Often understanding why somebody is saying sometimg at the time they do is much more important after all.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This idea that we are under funded is not true. Per Capita we spend more than every other country on education than any other OECD country besides Luxembourg.

We are number two world wide for funds to education per capita.

Our funding is just wasted and ineffective. We have a cultural problem with education. Not a funding problem.

[–] Eldritch 8 points 1 year ago

Yes School boards and superintendents are extremely well funded. The fact that teachers have to struggle to scrape by while at the same time funding classroom supplies out of their own money just reeks of mis-allocated misspent funds. There's always money for another Sports program. While science technology engineering and math extracurriculars in many districts don't exist.

It's a perfect mirror of our diseased American culture. Where wealth and wealth alone is Merit. And those who give the least (work) get the most.

[–] Barbacamanitu 5 points 1 year ago

That money goes to administrators instead of teachers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Americans aren't. A corrupt system is.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There are a lot of germans voting for idiots which just repeat a few Trump topics a few months later. :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was visiting Germany in 2016 during the spring, before the election. Several Europeans, after hearing we were from the US, asked, "What the hell is going on in your country?"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Man, we had absolutely no idea what to expect...