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[–] EatMyDick 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"Improved"

Sure if you mean almost caught up in functionality while still having maybe usability issues.

Year of the Linux desktop πŸ‘ŒπŸ‘

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's not so much Linux catching up as it is making games compatible (and in most cases run just as well as native Linux games) that weren't made for Linux in the first place. And that's pretty insane. Thank you Valve πŸ™πŸ˜”

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Right? All of these comments are like "it's just as easy as gaming on Windows. I just have to make sure I run these specific commands in my terminal or my PC bricks, nothing runs as well as on Windows unless you have 20 years of experience with Linux, and you still need to keep a dual boot of Windows for those pesky games that aren't Linux-friendly (re: 99.9% of games). I'm so much happier on Linux and will never look back!~~please shoot me in the face now and end my pain~~ I'm so happy!"

Like whatever lies you guys need to tell yourselves lol. I'll stick with Windows until it's as easy as hitting play. Also would be nice if the UI didn't look straight out of 1995.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get Nobara os if you want a plug-and-play experience. Valve is doing an amazing job pushing Linux gaming

And I dunno where you're getting the ui thing from; most distros look and feel much better than windows even by default these days lol

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mint was the most recent distro I tried and it looked like a potato, but sadly didn't taste as good.

With Nobara, can I install any and all applications and games I'm currently running on my PC, with zero additional steps, and does this OS get driver updates for my 4080 on the same frequency as Windows? Can I install Steam and play any game in my library with zero additional steps? If that's the case, I'll make the switch right here, right now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Mint looks amazing though imo, better than windows by default I dare say

You could just change the theming and stuff if you didn't like the default look. Linux is basically infinitely customizable after all. Distros and desktop environments just make it much easier.

With Nobara, can I install any and all applications and games I’m currently running on my PC, with zero additional steps

It's not zero additional steps on windows either though; on windows you'd still need to download and install directx, opengl, vulkan, etc and find and install the correct .net framework versions for many tasks. I remember windows having its own fair share of hassle while I was on it until a few months ago, even aside from how slow and bloated it is.

Nobara basically takes care of similar setup on Linux for you, making some additional improvements like proton GE (modified version of Valve's proton to further increase compatibility and performance) and I'm pretty sure the drivers are just a modified version of the latest official ones. You could ask in the discord server for more info.

And you don't need to 'switch'! You could set up dual-booting instead; some invasive anti-cheats are only made for windows right now so some of those games don't work yet.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you even used windows recently?? Mint doesn't look bad but it's nowhere as good or even better than windows. (I use arch btw, not a windows user)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yup. Was dual-booting up until a few months ago. I much prefer the default aesthetics of mint/cinnamon and gnome over it, though I did change mine around to fit my tastes better (which I tried and failed to do on windows)

All the useful menus in windows 11 are buried inside the new ones and they still use the old windows xp style menus; they didn't even bother integrating them with the new design. Even the default file explorer doesn't use the accent colors you set lmao

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 1 points 1 year ago

Even the default file explorer doesn't use the accent colors you set lmao

That's just an outright lie.

Source: I'm looking at my lime green default file explorer right now.

[–] _cerpin_taxt_ 1 points 1 year ago

Mint just looks like a fake OS that someone designed for a movie set or something. I can't quit put my finger on it, but it looks cheap and basic as hell. Windows 11 is very aesthetically pleasing and IMO looks nicer than OSX these days.

With Windows, I can install Steam. Once that's installed, I just install the games right from Steam. As far as my GPU goes, I just download GeForce Experience and then it pushes updated drivers to me on a regular basis that I can choose to install or not.

DirectX gets pushed out to every Windows computer with no need to manually install it, as does the .NET framework. If you need a different version of .NET, any software you install will typically warn you during installation, and even give the option to install right then and there.

I built my most recent PC about a year ago. I installed Windows and ran updates. Then I installed GeForce Experience and updated my GPU drivers. Then I installed Steam, and then installed my games of choice. No more, no less, and I was playing games in 4k 120+ FPS with zero issues or messiness.

If I were to install Nobara right now, can I just go through that exact simple process? If not, I'm not interested lol, and I'm a "techie." Good luck trying to convert your average user.

You guys always claim how great Linux is and how you're never going back to Windows, yet still dual boot with Windows. You know what I don't do with my Windows install? Dual boot to any other OS lmao.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You're in the wrong thready, buddy. Absolutely no one is saying that.

99% of games run out of the box with no more issues than on Windows.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I daily drive Debian 12 on my desktop. In my massive library of steam games, I’ve yet to come across more than 3 that I haven’t been able to get to work, and the rest run remarkably better than on windows. Controller support has been more seamless than it was on windows, and I’ve gotten older games to work that never worked on windows 10. I’m not sure what experience you’re basing this on, maybe Optimus has some issues for laptops, but every desktop I’ve built in the last ~4 years has worked fine (and with nvidia GPUs, too)