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I have seen a lot of tesla vandalism online the last few days and I'm kind of on the fence about it.

I've seen several examples locally here in BC, Canada.

I think totally warranted at newly purchased teslas going forward. Also it serves as a deterrent for potential future buyers.

But vandalizing a car that is a few years old I think is lame. Those driversare already being punished enough by driving something around that's worth less than scrap.

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[–] Redredme 48 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

Vandalism is always bullshit and a gargantuan dick move.

Especially against stuff owned by a private person. Someone saved for that or worse: took out a loan for it. That car represents a year, 2 years or even more of work.

There is nothing what justifies it.

I dont like [billionaire]. Lets destroy the property of [random dude] who probably also doesn't like [billionaire].

It's bullshit.

I dont like trump. Just give me your adress so I can destroy your home. What do you say? You dont like Trump either, you only laughed once during the dumb bullshit of the apprentice? There you have it! Let me wreck all your shit!

You can explain it away all you like but its still bullshit.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 7 points 3 hours ago

While I feel like major acts of vandalism are antisocial, minor ones are just humans being humans and the absolutism of your position here is making it hard to agree. If I see someone wearing one of Kanye West's swastika shirts and someone throws mud at them, I will clap. If there's a massive antiracist protest and someone lights an empty cop car on fire, I will cheer. Sometimes resisting evil means being pretty rude, and now that this CEO is the front man for an inside coup, anyone financially supporting him has been made complicit, against their will or no. There is room for nuance, there are justifications, and in protesting, it is better to allow for a diversity of tactics rather than try to police each other.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

OP is including writing "wash me" in the dust on the rear window in "vandalism".

That doesn't financially harm anyone and is obviously not the same as burning someone's house down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

OP is including writing "wash me" in the dust on the rear window in "vandalism".

Did they say so in a comment?
I don't see it in the OP post.

Anyway, I don't think of selective cleaning when I hear vandalism.
And I agree with the previous comment, that destroying property is not the moral thing to do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] zovits 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

While I mostly agree, let me point out that a random person is not going to get a CT. It's almost 100% rich, right-wing tech-bros or fElon fanboys, or narcissistic assholes. If anyone is blowing away that much money, they have either researched the market and have put a higher weight on looks, ideology or signalling loyalty than on any practical aspects - or they have done no research at all. Both cases deserve to be ridiculed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

People buying a Toyota aren't expressing support for Koji Sato's work policies resulting in deaths from overwork. In fact most people buying a car don't care in the slightest who happens to be the CEO of that car manufacturer.

They might just like the retrofuturistic shape, and aren't interested in politics.

[–] zovits 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Last time I checked, it was not mandatory to work for Toyota, so anyone feeling overworked there could leave. Unlike those feeling threatened under President felon, who can't just up and leave the country. Regarding the "retrofuturistic shape" I wrote above: "put a higher weight on looks".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 57 minutes ago

Last time I checked, it was not mandatory to work for Toyota, so anyone feeling overworked there could leave.

So it's fine for Musk to abuse Tesla workers and union bust, because they can leave? Is that what's you are saying? I'm not sure the fact someone can leave is any excuse for a CEO's behavior.

Unlike those feeling threatened under President felon, who can’t just up and leave the country.

Unlike those at Toyota, a Japanese company where it's the cultural norm to work at the same corporation your entire life, and it's unthinkable to leave or complain about your employer?

Anyhow, it was just a made up example, I know nothing about Koji Sato, maybe he's amazing. My point is that buying a car is not a political statement and not an expression of support for the CEO of the car company. It certainly can be, but it usually isn't.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Even if they were "almost 100%" right wing tech bros, it doesn't excuse messing with a private person's shit.

People need to target the problem, rather than infighting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 34 minutes ago

Do those who endorse the state capture by Musk count as part of the problem?

[–] zovits 8 points 5 hours ago

Yes, that's the "mostly agree" part. 👍

[–] davepleasebehave 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

how much money puts you above the proletarian mark? people are working hard and still struggling. other people are creaming off their capital and buying expensive trinkets as a sign. it seems moral to make their lives difficult. and taking your expensive Tesla car to be repaired every month is the tax on your stupidity.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

No answer to your question is relevant, as there is no line where vandalising someone's shit becomes acceptable. Let alone based on someone's gut reaction that owning a particular car makes someone scum

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 minutes ago

there is no line where vandalising someone’s shit becomes acceptable.

There definitely is, it's acceptable for the homeless to throw rocks at the kings carriage as it rolls by, so where's the line?

[–] SamboT 1 points 2 minutes ago

Oh look a sane person.