I have tried, unsuccessfully, to get various AI models to create a script that will curl or wget the latest Ubuntu LTS desktop torrent, even should that LTS version update in the future (beyond 24.01.1 LTS). The purpose is that I would like to seed whatever the latest LTS torrent is and I don't want to have to keep checking the Ubuntu page for updates, I want it automatic. I know that LTS is slow to change versions but I am annoyed that AI can't just write a decent script for this.
I also have downloaded rtorrent as a command line and will deal with how to make sure the latest LTS is used, as opposed to the prior one, with a different script later, but that's not what I'm trying to now.
I am not asking for a human to create this script for me. I am asking why AI models keep getting this so wrong. I've tried ChatGPT 4o, I've tried DeepSeek, I've tried other localized models, Reasoning Models. They all fail. And when I execute their code, and I get errors and show it to the models, they still fail, many times in a row. I want to ask Lemmy if getting an answer is theoretically possible with the right prompt or if AI just sucks at coding.
This shouldn't be too hard to do. At https://www.releases.ubuntu.com, they list the releases. When curling the webpage, there's a list of the releases with version numbers some with LTS. New versions are always larger numbers. At https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads, they list the torrents. Also, all release torrents for desktop are in the format https://www.releases.ubuntu.com/XX.XX/desktop.torrent. I've tried to teach these models this shit and to just create a script for me, holy shit it's been annoying. The models are incredibly stupid with scripting.
I'm not a computer programmer or developer and am picking up more coding here and there just because I want to do certain things in linux. But I just don't understand why this is so difficult.
So my question is, is there ANY prompt for ANY model that will output successful code for this seemingly easy task, or is AI still too stupid to do this?
Why the hell would you ask an AI model to write the script for you? It's a one-liner, took me just a minute to write. Even if you know very little of Bash I can't imagine it would take more than a few minutes of research to figure it out.
AI is mediocre at best when it comes to writing code, and if you don't have the skill to troubleshoot its garbage outputs you shouldn't be using it at all.
Great solution (esp the corrected one further down). I can relate to OP in the sense that if I studied programming, I might be able to whip something like this up, but so far I haven't been disciplined enough to learn and practice programming consistently.
It's also interesting, this new AI variation of Cunningham's Law, wherein posting an incorrect solution on a discussion board will yield way more attention and correct answers than asking a question. It's interesting to wonder why that is.
I mean, I think that that's not a hard question to answer. If AI can do something, then anyone who can use human language can also do it.
That's true as of 2025, and a solid issue. I don't think that a purely-LLM based solution is going to be the final solution.
I do think that AI will ultimately get there, though.
Thank you! There are two different kinds of people in the world. There are those great at coding and those great at watching netflix and doing whip-its.
edit: actually this torrent downloads ubuntu-22.04.5-desktop-amd64.iso, which isn't the latest LTS version (which is 24.01.1). It's probably good enough, but part of the challenge in this was to always torrent the latest one.
does anyone know why ubuntu-latest.torrent would try to download 22 instead of 24 LTS?
My bad, that's what happens when you write a script in a minute. It turns out the latest LTS version is actually the second one listed, not the last. This one should actually fetch the latest version:
Hooray!
look everyone, i figured it out using various methods, i'm a programmer now
I’m so confused. Why are you using sed and grep? Can’t you use sed and/or awk to write a regular expression?
I'm not the author, but I regularly use grep and sed in conjunction for things that sed or awk can theoretically do alone via multiple commands. I think that that's pretty common -- grep is used as the search tool, sed as the replacement tool, and you stick 'em together at the shell level. Memory usage isn't very significant for something like this.
The issue with large dataset matches is that in the worst case, grep will put parse the file once and sed will again. With awk or sed only, you only parse the file once.
grep finds the URLs for the desktop torrent files, sed selects the second one. There's probably a more elegant way to do it but for a quick script it's fine.
You can be good at anything if you just put in some effort. The mindset that since you're not good at programming you can never be is stupid.
This isn't really true. We all have different characteristics. Some people are naturally more suited to certain things more than others. Yes, everyone can improve a given skill to some degree, but not everyone can be "good at" some particular thing. It's OK, because they can be good at something else!
I don't know if that's actually true. If I'm 5'2" and uncoordinated will I ever become a professional basketball player? I try to be honest with myself about my strengths and weaknesses. For me, just stopping windows was the victory.
I actually agree with this attitude - do what you're good at and not what you're bad at - but it isn't very popular in America where "everybody can make it". I guess it has something to do with an Eastern/Western divide in mindset, where the eastern mindset is more "know where your place/position in society is and stick with it".
Muggsy was 5’3”. Coordination can be learned
ubuntu-latest.torrent (what's written after -o) is the output name. You should be very careful with executing commands that you don't fully understand. Might save you a lot of trouble in the future.