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Have they ever offered any cooked-up rationale for this? Or does everyone understand and admit that this comes from nothing but irrational hatred?
The rationale I was told was for battlefield risks. If they are on hormone treatments, there's a risk if they are unable to obtain those while deployed somewhere. Also similar to how the military handles diabetics.
No idea how reasonable or accurate that is. I'm not a doctor.
What about the risk for diabetic troops? Should we kick all of them out of the military because of the risk of not being able to obtain insulin while they're deployed?
Diabetes is generally disqualifying in the military. Whether it should be or not is beyond my expertise to make an informed opinion.
Yeah, Diabetes needs careful management. Even changing meds can fuck you up quickly. Hypo (and hyper) glycemia is no joke.
Okay, what about all other chronic health issues that people have to take regular medication for? Are you saying that not a single one of those people is in the military and if they are, they should be kicked out?
(Testosterone, incidentally, is something some cis men, even in the military, take regularly.)
The list of disqualifying factors is quite long.
Generally speaking if you develop a disqualifying factor you're going to be discharged. There are some exceptions and waivers for things like battlefield amputations or blindness. For those they might send you to a training unit or hell they might even keep you if you're especially hooah. Mostly you'll be kicked out if you aren't perfectly healthy.
At least that was my experience in the army.
I got diagnosed with EDS in boot camp (I dislocated my fingers and shoulder while doing pushups), they chose to not put it in my record and sent me back to my unit to complete my training. Though, that was the Navy, and we were at war at the time.
If you have chronic health issues you generally don't qualify to join in the first place. https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/613003_vol01.pdf?ver=B0uhh9e1k_MDTz4PuNU8Aw%3D%3D
I'm not saying anything. I'm telling you what the military does. I also alluded to you that I'm not qualified to make those decisions myself. Your beef is not with me.
It depends on the situation, but for the most part, people who have chronic or severe medical issues will be pulled from their unit until they recover; after which they'll return to the same or a similar unit.
If they aren't eventually deemed "fit for duty" their case is presented to a medical board, where they decide if the service member should be retained on active duty. If so, the board could put restrictions on types of duty or grant various reasonable accommodations to the service member. If not, they'll be medically discharged from active duty.
I only really have secondhand knowledge, because I never went through the process myself, but I lost some people to it. There are appeals processes and the like, and from my perspective it seemed like a fair way to go about it.
My brother got denied enlistment into the Air Force because he has a slight tremor in one hand. What makes you believe anyone with serious chronic health issues is going get in over him?
Because I'm stupid and I wish people would realize that other than constantly get angry at me about saying stupid things.