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[–] jaybone 53 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Why do people blame devs for enterprise software functionality? Those requirements are all driven by marketing / product management.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We've got a saying at work, "Manglement's gotta mangle."

It's how we refer to management's (who we refer to as manglement) decisions when they can't leave a functioning system alone without getting in there and breaking it.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I call them Rubber Duck Managers.

There’s an old story about a website designer finishing a site. But they knew the approval for the site would need to come from one specific manager. This particular manager was notorious for changing things just to be able to say they contributed. Nothing could ever pass over this manager’s desk without at least one revision, because the manager wanted to be able to say that they had a hand in the project. They weren’t ever content with just sitting back and going “yeah, looks good. Ship it as-is.”

So the designer got the site looking exactly how they wanted it. It was perfect… And then right before they sent it off to be approved, they added a banner of spinning rubber duck gifs at the very top of the page:

The manager sent back “yeah, just get rid of the damned ducks before the site goes live.” By giving the manager a big bright “this needs to be fixed” thing to change, the designer was able to get the site they actually wanted. So if you’re ever dealing with a manager like this, be sure to give them a figurative rubber duck to “fix”.

[–] Sidhean 1 points 1 month ago

Ha. Reminds me of those spinny things you put above an infants crib.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree. Microsoft employees are not guilty of any microsoft issues. Anyone who used windows11 for any amount of time has very clear understanding that the devs have no idea what is going on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I blame whoever gave public school kids tablets and chrome books instead of sending them to computer labs. Now all of society is paying because we only taught one generation of people how to use Windows.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those kids are barely starting to graduate highschool or are only a few years out of it. It doesn't do any good blaming today's cs interns and juniors when Microsoft products have been shit for decades

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“Those kids” have already graduated college and are in the workforce. Computer labs got removed from my local schools in the early 2010’s, which was a literal decade ago. The middle schoolers (at the time when the computer labs were removed) have bachelors degrees now.

[–] toynbee 2 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure whether TV Tropes warnings are expected here but, in case they are, you know, fair warning.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExecutiveMeddling