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Covid cases are surging across the U.S. post-holidays, with rising test positivity, hospitalizations, and deaths, while booster uptake remains low.

Only 21.4% of adults and 10.3% of children have received the latest booster, leaving vulnerable groups, including the elderly, at higher risk.

Experts warn of continued dangers from Covid, including long Covid and economic impacts, as the virus has not yet reached an endemic state.

With uncertain federal priorities, researchers stress the importance of monitoring infections, updating vaccines, and using preventive measures to mitigate future waves.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Covid is going to end up being another cigarette situation.

People are going to ignore the "minor" risks for decades, then the long term population effects will kick in and cause massive social problems.

There's going to be a lot of long term mental decline, heart disease, etc. That's going to be tied to having had covid a dozen times. The science is already hinting at stacking permant damage.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-risky-are-repeat-covid-infections-what-we-know-so-far/

Some very smart people are significantly concerned about this.

Get your fucking boosters people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I reckon polio is a good analogy. That illness doesn't seem so bad at first. Mild symptoms (or no symptoms at all), seems like you get better. It's much worse in a small number of cases - potentially causing paralysis and death. But a big issue is post-polio syndrome, which surfaces many years later in a large percentage of people.

fatigue is often the most disabling symptom; even slight exertion often produces disabling fatigue [...]

Covid is a bit like that. Most people who get it feel pretty rotten for a few days, and then its apparently over. But we've seen that for some people, covid causes permanent brain injuries resulting in chronic exhaustion and brain-fog. It's unclear precisely how common this this, but we know that repeated exposure increases the risk.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had never heard of post polio syndrome before... probably because we eradicated it here with vaccines.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 3 points 2 days ago

Post polio syndrome hits people that contracted polio in the first place just 30+ years later. So you not hearing about it has more to do with you not knowing people that contracted polio than it's eradication.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Indeed.

We recently learned that covid causes neurons to fuse. This suggests that over time, a society that doesn't take precautions against spreading it will become stupider and develop a significantly higher rate of mental and/or physical disorders.

We don't know how that will take shape, of course, but it reminds me of the prevalence of lead (e.g. from leaded gasoline) through a big chunk of the 20th century, and the corresponding IQ decline and violent crime rise among generations who spent much of their lives exposed to it.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I will endlessly repeat this.

Do you folks remember when US schools opened back up?

Because I do. I remember entire classrooms where every single student was positive. I remember kids getting consecutive infections and the suburbanite Karens in my workplace talking about their kids 5th covid infection in 2 months as if it was no big deal.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, however I cannot stress enough how much COVID fucks you up long term.

As you stated, brain inflammation, chronic pain, literally being significantly, measurably, and noticeably stupider for the rest of your life… and look at how those kids turned out.

I couldn’t imagine a better killer for the most evil empire that human civilization has ever produced.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

wasn’t the impact on kids minimal?

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/10/children-covid.html?t

“For almost every infectious disease, the most vulnerable populations are at the extremes of age — the very young and the very old,” said Stanford Medicine professor of microbiology and immunology and of pathology Bali Pulendran, PhD. “But with COVID-19, the young are spared while the old are emphatically not. That’s been a mystery.”

[–] return2ozma 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime 4 points 3 days ago

There were never talks about a disease infecting people

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Alas, RFK incoming - we will get to see how low these numbers actually can go, once we have aggressive anti-vax policy from the top-down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I imagine he'll cut as much funding for vaccines as he can, maybe making vaccines something insurance companies won't/can't cover, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (3 children)

What's the actual motivation for that though?

Does he genuinely believe that vaccines are actually more harmful than beneficial?

I can imagine why an individual might be hesitant to have a vaccination, but it's obvious that populations are more productive when everyone is vaccinated.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In 3 points 2 days ago

He and his family are vaccinated. He seems to be on a crusade against Thimerosal in vaccines.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0mzk2y41zvo

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

Either he believes vaccines are more harmful that the actual disease, or his brain worm does.

He’s also a lawyer, not a doctor, and should have zero say in this.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

That's an excellent question I doubt we'll ever know the answer to.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago

It's hard to imagine the general public getting even dumber, but here we are.

[–] Tarquinn2049 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, having never had covid, I definitely notice a lot of friends and family around me seeming to struggle mentally with stuff they used to be good at. And some of them physically, too. It has had a pretty noticeable cost already with most of them only getting it 1-3 times so far. If it keeps being around and adding up and people keep thinking of it as not a big deal, I can't imagine how much more it's going to affect them in 5-10 years.

So far, none of them have even gotten the specific effects necessary for a "long covid" label, but it has clearly done something.

[–] MutilationWave 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've had it three times. My wife has had it five. I can't put my finger on anything but I'm definitely not as sharp as I was. People started up a game of scattergories on new year's. I used to play it all the time 20 years ago. This was a new version.

I couldn't think. Now I had several beers and champagne and a joint by this point, but it was really upsetting. I can't think like I used to. It could just be age.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Try going sober for a month and see if anything changes.

[–] MutilationWave 4 points 3 days ago

I did that last year. I didn't feel any different 30 days after my last drink versus 2.

[–] CitizenKong 10 points 4 days ago

Every time you get Covid, you can lose several IQ points. It will be this generation's leaded gasoline.