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[–] nifty 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

They/them is grammatically correct for singular nouns, but maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone (like this lady who is opposed to using someone’s correct pronouns) being difficult. But I feel people who want to be difficult are going to be difficult for whatever reason, and it’s not about the pronouns or grammar at that point.

For reference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they

Edit why is my comment being read uncharitably by the downvoters? Its weird behavior, I don’t get why someone would do that lol

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I think neopronouns would piss off those against the concept of non-binary or trans even more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I like the idea of inventing new pronouns, but most of the suggestions so far (like "Xe") are too silly to be taken seriously. "They/them" can come off as impersonal at times, but we seem to be more or less settling on that, so whatever.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

I’m in the too silly to be taken seriously boat. They/them works perfectly fine.

[–] nifty 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

But it shouldn’t though? In a reasonable society, using neopronouns isn’t any different than using someone’s name. Yeah, I acknowledge that society isn’t reasonable some times.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Shouldn’t means nothing. People shouldn’t own other people and yet gestures broadly at history

Calling someone what they want to be called is just being decent. Like your name is Thomas but you’d like to be called Tommy. Neopronouns aren’t names, they’re an attempt to force speech to fit the unique desires of the person demanding use of said neopronouns. Using they/them is a perfectly reasonable compromise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

In a reasonable society, using neopronouns isn’t any different than using someone’s name

Which means they fail at being what pronouns are: a quick replacement for a piece of information that otherwise has to be asked for

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

edit: below comment is in response to a previous version of the above comment before they clarified it was about the lady :)

maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone ~~being difficult~~ asking

ftfy :)

[–] nifty 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think that lady isn’t asking though? She seems argumentative to me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh you mean use neopronouns instead of they/them specifically in order to appease jeanette in the post?

sorry, i thought you meant using neopronouns in general. you might want to consider editing your comment for fuzzy language if that’s not the case. :)

[–] nifty 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No I won’t edit further, I hate the purity test I am being put through here, so I am just going to stop responding to this thread, thanks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

ugh but i see your edit now and it fixed things! genuinely i think you were being downvoted because people misread your intent but it’s better now lol? sorry you took so much offense to that i guess

[–] nifty -4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe that was the goal? You can’t tell with people these days. Regardless, I don’t like someone assuming stupid shit about my morals and ethics. I know what I am about, so I’ll just continue doing that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

alright ur a little grumpy today and that’s okay lol. thanks for clarifying your comment even though you said you didn’t want to