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This is funny because in the bay area as nowhere else I've ever lived, pedestrians actually take the right of way as they should. In Berkeley they don't even glance over their shoulder, it is completely up to the driver. Doesn't work where the driver can't see them, though, so I think peds and (most) drivers are more conscious of that as a bad situation. I don't believe real estate agents speak for residents.
I found it much more annoying as a driver elsewhere where people wait two feet from the curb and wave at you to come to a complete stop before they start crossing. Or while walking, after I've stepped off the curb drivers half a block away assume I must not have seen them so they honk at me. A lot of theatre and emotion for what is really just a normal part of driving (don't run into people even if it means you have to slow down).
Drivers don’t stop. I’m not stupid enough to step off the curb until it’s clear you’ve seen me and are stopping
You might, I might, but Kids and some adults don't have the awareness. And it's not their fault they don't have the awareness either
I'm not suggesting you go blindly, but it's common practice to step off the curb -- they don't have to pay any attention to you at all until you do. My practice is to avoid eye contact until I'm really in front of them, but obviously if they aren't stopping you don't keep walking.
More bad driving practices in the US, that became worse as people forgot how to drive over pandemic ….
I agree drivers got crazy after the pandemic. I haven't been in the bay area since then and maybe my remembered experience just doesn't exist anymore.
Exactly. If I'm putting myself in front of a vehicle, I HAVE to know that it will not run me over. Especially since drivers in my area seem to be unable to stop in front of stop lines.
So common to see the rear wheels past the stop line. I wish cops would at least give out warnings to reduce this habit. Its so normalized most don't even realize to stop before the line.
One thing that I didn't realize, as an American, is that having traffic lights on the far side of the intersection isn't universal. If we only put them on the near side, drivers would have to stop behind the line, or else they'd be unable to see when the light turns green. Another example of better infrastructure being better than enforcement.
Dude so many intersections around me don't even have the stop lines, because they were either never painted in the first place, or they've faded or been paved over
I like to go in front of a vehicle with the knowledge that either they will see me and stop, or I'll be ready to jump out of the way. I'm very stressed out when walking around.
I almost got nailed by a city bus on 5th and Market in SF after the green walk signal turned on. Somebody literally grabbed my jacket and pulled me back and maybe saved my life.
Half a block seems really close unless it's a huge block or they're going really slowly to begin with
Oh I just mean ample space the details vary, as you say.