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Wealthier households, earning over $100,000, are dominating holiday travel this year, making up 45% of travelers and over half of paid lodging customers, according to Deloitte.

Rising costs, including airfare and luxury accommodations, have priced out lower-income households, whose travel participation has declined.

Affluent travelers are driving demand for premium experiences, with high-end destinations seeing significant price increases. Meanwhile, budget-conscious travelers are cutting costs by staying with family or using credit to fund trips.

Inflation continues to strain travel budgets across income levels, with 29% of travelers expecting to take on debt.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 week ago (5 children)

People who make 6 figures are rich?

[–] scutiger 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Depends what end of 6 figures. That's a pretty broad range.

[–] De_Narm 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

According to this website about 41% of US households make at least 6 figures pre-taxes. Not that rich apparently.

EDIT: Got the numbers mixed up, initially I wrote 59% - which is the percentage of people making less.

[–] werefreeatlast 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I am a 59%-er and this feels much less freedomish than being a kid with dad making only 35k. Where does my money go?

[–] orclev 26 points 1 week ago

Into the pockets of billionaires. If you're not in the 1% these days you aren't rich, you're middle class.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So... that leads me to think 45% of travelers having incomes over 100k this thanksgiving means they're underrepresented and thus are not dominating travel in the slightest?

[–] dogslayeggs 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Assuming the 59% number is correct, then you're right.

EDIT: The number is not correct. It is closer to 33%.

[–] De_Narm -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't know shit about taxes in the US, but a solid guess would be that 45% is actually proportional to the amount of households making 6 figures post-taxes.

[–] Telodzrum 8 points 1 week ago

We don't generally measure post-tax (or "take-home") income in economics discussions. Gross income is the preferred measure because it allows for a more like:like comparison.

[–] dogslayeggs 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] FlowVoid 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

https://www.supermoney.com/how-many-people-make-over-100k

https://spendmenot.com/how-many-people-make-over-100k/

https://www.fool.com/money/personal-finance/articles/heres-how-many-families-make-100k-or-more-per-year/

These links cite out-of-date numbers. The latest numbers are significantly higher.

Roughly 40% of households are currently over $100K, which is not that different than the 45% of travelers who are over $100K.

https://www.marketingscoop.com/small-business/how-many-people-make-over-100k/ only 15.5% of households earn between $100,000 and $150,000 annually. Including those making $150k or above, the percentage rises to 34.1%. That means a full 85.5% of US households get by on less than a six-figure income.

This person needs to check their math...

[–] dogslayeggs 3 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I laughed at how badly that last one messed up their math.

[–] De_Narm 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I fixed my post - according to my source 59% make less than 6 figures, not more. It's still different to your sources, but not by as large a margin. Thanks for cross-checking!

[–] dogslayeggs 3 points 1 week ago

I went to that site, and I interpreted it exactly like you did. They really were not clear about how they presented their data.

[–] orclev 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you don't have at least $10 million in liquid assets then you aren't rich. In a less fucked up timeline what this article is calling rich would have been qualified as middle class. They're just trying to shift the definitions to hide how out of control income inequality has gotten and how rampant poverty is becoming. With the current market prices, nevermind the absolute shit show it's about to become, an income of less than $50k should be considered below the poverty line.

[–] mortalic 16 points 1 week ago

Laughable tbh. You aren't rich until you can stop working.

[–] njm1314 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I consider someone who makes 900,000 a year rich.

[–] Dkarma -4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Nice pulling a number out your ass. Now do the math from the article

Households of 100k...for two earners.

Can you divide 100k by 2 kid?

No no you can't apparently cuz it's not 900k

Go Google non sequitur.

[–] njm1314 5 points 6 days ago

What do you mean pull it out of my ass? The article said six figures. Is 900k not six figures? Is 900k any less six figures than 100k?

Also I'm not sure what math you're quoting here. None of that's in the article. Children aren't even mentioned.