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[–] [email protected] 308 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Literally in a car with an immigrant right now who voted Trump because things were cheaper before covid.

FFS.

[–] DerArzt 190 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Anecdotal evidence that the right is for the uneducated.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Anecdotally... About 75% of the right that I know/met.

The other 25% is a mix of racism, greed, and conspiracy theory.

[–] ZILtoid1991 37 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Every time they'll be complaining about the price hikes under Trump, just remind them of why they voted for Trump. This is the best course of action against "collective amnesia" as we call it in Hungary.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 20 hours ago

Oh alongside the loss of benefits they rely on (which I told them about), the pandemic potential with the worst Kennedy, even their friends which are of varying ethnicities and going to be targeted, the list is.... Long.

[–] blazeknave 2 points 15 hours ago

How do you come back from it?

[–] Sam_Bass 54 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Solid distinction.

Religion primed the rubes, and a new godhead told them he is their salvation.

[–] Bookmeat 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Religion didn't prime them. Religion merely exploits the same human psychological weaknesses. This is why they go hand in hand.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Hmm. Maybe look up what priming (verb) means.

[–] Bookmeat 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I know what it means. I guess I didn't make my point clear enough, that's on me. I didn't think I had to write it for an eli5 audience.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Whatever makes you feel better

[–] RaoulDook 58 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

So sad that dumbasses who think the President controls grocery store prices and gas prices have done this to us all.

I voted for Harris and my state went red for Trump as usual. Just sad and disgusted at it all today.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

How do you expect people to think any differently when there is nobody combatting that narrative at the national level? That is something the Democrats could have been hammering on.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

The democrats were too busy staring at him.

[–] RaoulDook 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, just basic knowledge of how the President's job works? Stuff we learn in grade school. Everyone should know this, but people are idiots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Right, which is why you educate them and make the case for them to vote for you, or else the other side will spread their disinformation without any competing narrative. That's kind of the entire point of a presidential campaign. Just calling people idiots isn't going to make them not be idiots.

[–] rayyy 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just wait until the leopards start eating their faces. Act surprised.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Honestly, I'm going to try and leave.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 25 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't expect everybody to be politically aware, but there's "not politically aware" and then there's whatever that is.

[–] pivot_root 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
[–] [email protected] 40 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Grocery stores are making record profits. Do they really think they are going to voluntarily cut prices? They know there will be no oversight under trump (not that Biden did anything about price gouging). Prices are going to go up even higher.

[–] PriorityMotif 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Not if people don't have enough money, then they'll take the five finger discount.

[–] pivot_root 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't put it past the stores to ask for an executive order to make theft punishable by losing fingers.

[–] PriorityMotif 3 points 14 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Instead of mocking people like this, us on the left really need to understand them and how to appeal to them better than Trump. Dude is a billionaire and managed to convince working people he's on their side. He's winning the populism game because no one else is even playing it. Time to beat him at his own game

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

How do you get the Democrats to run somebody like Sanders when they don't even have a primary? The DNC boned the entire country. Again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't pretend to know how to accomplish this. I may be completely wrong here, but two things that have to go:

  • Religious thought ("faithbrain" or the Peter Pan-esque belief that things are true because you believe they are true, despite a lack of evidentiary or even argumentative support, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary)
  • Social media bubbles (billionaires controlling the content people see, creating bubbles of "information" that skew the public in their favor)

There's almost certainly more to do as well, but those things stand out to me. Also, it seems hard to believe that we could make any progress on these fronts given the current situation.

[–] Bookmeat 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

This won't change. Democrats have to take a lesson in human behaviour. Republican tactics work. Embrace them. Exploit them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago

I keep waiting for the Left to fight dirty, but... We go high, they go low, and low is what gets elected

[–] [email protected] -4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yes, but that doesn't matter to republicans.

[–] TurnpikeRangers 10 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, their plan is to remove all immigrants

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

A lot of their own parents and grandparents are going to have to go then. The leopards will not go hungry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago

Only the ones who aren't "white".