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[–] [email protected] 255 points 1 month ago (5 children)

5 day RTO is a stealth layoff. This is a feature, not a bug.

[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's like reverse stack ranking. They'll be left with the people that couldn't find another job.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and the people who know exactly how to waste time in an office.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's literally what we all do in office. Just sit ans chat. It's country club. Productivity went up during covid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup, I waste way more time in the office than at home, and I waste plenty of time at home. Also, the time I don't waste is more productive at home than in the office.

I still value going to the office, but doing it everyday would just kill my soul. I need some time to myself to get stuff done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I love being able to fold laundry or go on elliptical during calls. Plus the extra sleep and no commute means im waaay friendlier in calls. Everyone wins.

[–] Snapz 24 points 1 month ago

A.k.a. Twitter and the elon filtering moment

[–] werefreeatlast 12 points 1 month ago

Brain drain is the perfect way to end monopolies.

[–] kameecoding 39 points 1 month ago

Yep this has been the modus operandi for businesses who want to reduce workforce without having to pay for layoffs.

[–] Stupidmanager 30 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Like many companies, they overhired in the last 4 years. Some of these people are due years of severance (my offer listed 2months for every year after 1 year), not to mention the vested stocks and other bonuses granted during this insane hot hire period.

So how do you remove people not loyal to the company? The most hated mandate ever. Amazon is a company that doesn’t need people in the office. This is nothing more than screwing people over.

[–] foofy 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No rank and file US-based employees at Amazon are getting years of severance. They don't do that.

[–] Stupidmanager 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that was a typo and my experience is limited towards the AWS side which is also facing this issue. But the numbers are there, some people have been at Amazon for a decade, so 20 months (if they had MY package of 2mos per year). Amazon was throwing everything at new hires, because they were making bank on their work.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So they're not paying severance to employees they fire?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Yes, but they're making people quit instead. They don't need to pay severance to employees who quit because of RTO.

[–] Stupidmanager 7 points 1 month ago

They are getting severance when terminated, unless for cause. My comment was, this is how they avoid it by forcing people to quit.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Quiet firing, if you will.