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I've heard the legends of having to drive to literally everywhere (e.g. drive thru banks), but I have no clue how far apart things are.

I live in suburban London where you can get to a big supermarket in 10 minutes of walking, a train station in 20 minutes and convenience stores are everywhere. You can get anywhere with bus and train in a few hours.

Can someone help a clueless British lemmyposter know how far things are in the US?

EDIT

Here are my walking distances:

  • To the nearest convenience store: 250m
  • To the nearest chain supermarket: 350m
  • To the bus stop: 310m
  • To the nearest park: 400m
  • To the nearest big supermarket: 1.3km
  • To the nearest library: 1.2km
  • To the nearest train station: 1km

Straight-line distance to Big Ben: 16km

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[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The railway used to be the default for rural areas. It could be again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So how does rail solve the Last Mile problem? It does no good to say "take the train" if the nearest train station is 60 miles away. And is it the best use of a train to run tracks to a town/village with a population 150 people or less?

[–] dustyData 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Light rail and buses? Even the most remote rural towns in Japan have small shuttle buses that serve even the sparsest areas. The great thing about public transit is that it is actually scalable if there's political will to make it happen. A shuttle bus can connect a rural neighborhood to a big train station within 60 minutes. The cool factor of transit is mix and matching several types of transport to cover the most area with the highest mobility for the widest array of people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Japan still has a higher density of population and far less landmass to cover. My nearest neighbor is over a mile away. Are you going to build a bus route or light rail just for me? Or through county, state, and federal forest lands? Logistics is a bitch.

[–] Olhonestjim 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Only where the rails went. We'd have to replace all the roads with light rails.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It would take more than that. The problem is almost not solvable under present economic and political conditions.

[–] Olhonestjim 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Oh, I agree. There are wide swaths of the country that rail cannot service. Individual homes out in the sticks, farmland, etc. they'd need a car or truck just to get to the train station.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 1 month ago

Not for last mile, but should be a much larger part of the picture.