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Pot, meet kettle. What if I told you that you're engaging in just as much gish gallopping straw-man discourse as you misconstrue my own arguments all the same? Seems quite clear, but I'm sure you'll just conveniently cast aside any rebuttal as more straw-man. Convenient.
No, I didn't say we can always legislate the problem away — I merely said punching a Nazis isn't proven to be a better solution
No, I didn't say that debating JD vance will stop bomb threats (weird tangential straw-man) — I merely said that punching nazis isn't proven to be a better solution.
These are, in fact, demonstrable straw-men to my arguments. (Say, how about we grow up and skip the whole straw-men deflective tropes?)
Ultimately: You Still. Haven't. Provided. A Single. Modicum. Of Evidence. That Punching Nazis. Reduces Nazis. That's it. Nothing more
Also, it's incredibly interesting that suddenly you're trying to shy away from the notion of punching a nazi isn't preemptive. Quite intriguing. If you actually believed this, then we wouldn't even have much issue.
I think it's really interesting you claim yourself to be an expert on this matter of fascism while exclaiming I am not; tell me, what are your credentials? What makes you think that? I'm not seeing any groundbreaking counter-arguments being presented here. I'm not seeing a single piece of evidence proving your case that "Punch a Nazi" is wise.
I don't disagree with this.
There are literal organizations for people who've been duped by this shit and got out run by the very guys who got out of it.. The problem is your claim is just not true. Once you're Nazi, it doesn't mean you're always a Nazi. But do yourself a favor and ask the founder of that organization what he thinks of the Punch a Nazi movement and whether it's effective. Considering they once were one, they probably have a bit more insight, don't you think? I'll wait.
Like I get it, I hate the scum too. From Boogaloo to Proud Boys to Oathkeepers to 1%ers to the base and so on... These people, uh, let's just say aren't deep thinkers. Yes, there are fuckwits across the globe from Russia to Germany. Yet there is a method to off-ramp these people from their path of radicalization, and I have yet to see any evidence that this "Punch a Nazi" thing reduces their numbers and doesn't actually increase recruitment. The key is indeed making a more compelling case both to the fence sitters, as well as sincerely reaching out.
Anyways, interesting conversation. Life and kids call and I think we've exhausted the points we both wanted to make.
Oh no! Your social normative life pulls you away from the vocal and unfazed radical, however will we survive without your reasoned and heady logic?!?!
Oh no! Your pissing into the wind and tilting at windmills from your computer chair is really fighting the good fight, buddy! I'm sure you're totally punching nazis you total badass, you ;)
Oh shit you're still here! Who's watching the wife and kids? Your reformed Nazi friends?
K weirdo.
Bruh that's literally you right now.
I'm compiling metadata on white nationalists for unicorn riot right now. This is literally my job. Of course I'm fucking weird you beige suburbanite.
Cool memes, kid. Projecting again, I see.
But alright, buddy sure, just don't forget to film it. I'll be really shocked to see you do anything more than memes and tilting at windmills.
(still haven't found a source, I see)
That's you right? You said that?
Oh thank you white savior! You're sacrificing so much time away from your wife and kids here in the meme mines!
Nah this is easy. Just snacking and bullshitting while having a few laughs.
Still no source, I see :)
You're literally not my audience. Your bruised ego and determination to be right completely glossed over every point I made in my previous post to reference a fucking TED talk.
Bro, you're the one wasting your time. I'm here all night.
Hey man, if you're not going give a source why can't you just give me some more funny memes at least.
If I'm not your audience like 30 replies deep, who is? Lmao? The one other tankie cheering you on? Preaching to the choir?
Hmm... Okay, Quixote.
Poncho, fetch me my lance! This fat snacking projector refuses to play "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" and merely swings it's bruised ego around like a flaccid shrews nose!