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I just got permanently banned from a community for making a single harmless remark on a single post that was right there in the main feed. It's not a community I'm super active in so it's not like devastating, but it is annoying

If your precious little community is full of so many delicate sensitive people who can't even be reminded that another viewpoint even exists, then you should really protect them by defederating and having everyone join your private website

The mod has literally removed like 75% of the comments and banned everyone lol

I don't know about anyone else, but I don't have time to read every rule for every community that pops up when I'm in view all

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It’s also really frustrating because the goal should be to get more people eating plant based, and their methods just push people away.

Why should that be the goal of the c/vegan community? Why can't it just be for vegans to vent, and exchange advice/news about vegan food?
This expectation that vegans need to always be positive and welcoming towards meat eaters barging into their vegan communities is exhausting and kind of ridiculous.

[–] frickineh 2 points 3 months ago

Oh I don't feel like I need to be welcoming to people who have no intention of listening and are just there to be dicks. I just don't want to push away anyone who might be open to the idea of changing their diet by immediately telling them what a terrible person they are for not doing it already. It's important to me not just to reduce the harm I do, but to try to minimize it elsewhere if I can.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's a fairly common tactic of evangelical religious groups to send young people out to proselytize; they say that they're called to spread the religion to the whole world, and that the proselytizing is to save people by converting them. The tactics that the young people are taught are often antagonistic. An extreme example is the Westboro Baptist Church, but all evangelical religions use similar tactics. Unsurprisingly, very few people convert. The true purpose of antagonistic proselytizing is to reinforce in/out group status; the youth are rejected by outside people, while being praised by people within their own group. That reinforces their feelings of comfort and safety within their group, and makes it more difficult for them to leave. Leaving the safety of the group means that they're severing their most intimate social connections, and that cost is too high for most people.

This was my experience as a Mormon; this has been the experience of many Mormons, and of all people that have left high-demand evangelical religions.

IF they really cared about getting more people to join their religion, they would be opening and welcoming to people, even people that were antagonistic to them. When you think about it from a PR standpoint, it should be clear that acting antagonistically towards people that simply don't believe the same things--not people that are being antagonistic themselves--works counter to the purpose of persuasion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but the idea that every vegan community must make it their goal to convert people, and act accordingly, is just wrong.
What if they just want to shitpost among themselves?

[–] SpaceNoodle -2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Then they can do so in the privacy of their own fora.

Edit: the butthurt brigade has arrived!

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