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What would your political compromise be? (self.asklemmy)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Lauchs to c/asklemmy

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Almost everyone agrees there should be more compromises in politics. So I'm curious, how would that play out?

While I love the policy debates and the nuances, most people go for the big issues. So, according to the party platforms/my gut, here's what I'd put as the 3 for each party:

Democrats: Abortion rights, gun control, climate change.

Republicans: Immigration, culture war (say, critical race theory in schools or gender affirming care for minors) , trump gets to be president. (Sorry but it really seems like a cult of personality at this point.)

Anyway, here's the exercise: say the other side was willing to give up on all three of their issues but you had to give up on one of your side's. OR, you can have two of your side's but have to give up on the third.

Just curious to see how this plays out. (You are of course free to name other priorities you think better represent the parties but obviously if you write "making Joe Pesci day a national holiday" as a priority and give it up, that doesn't really count.)

Edit: The consensus seems to be a big no to compromise. Which, fair, I imagine those on the Right feel just as strongly about what they would call baby murdering and replacing American workers etc.

Just kind of sad to see it in action.

But thanks/congrats to those who did try and work through a compromise!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm Canadian so I'm not a voter in the contest you're presenting, but if I were I would vote Democrat. And of the trio you present for the Democrats, I would say that the position I'd compromise on would be gun control. Not because American gun culture isn't bananas and it's not a serious problem, but because I can't see any plausible way to fix it in the short term. So might as well let it go for now and deal with the more important stuff that affects more people.

I think a more reasonable compromise would be to give Republicans most of what they want on immigration reform. That seems to be something they consider to be of critical importance, but that I think can be allowed without it causing significant harm. If the American economy starts to suffer as a result of not having illegal immigrant workers then that will be motivation for further reforms. I think it's important to have the laws try to reflect the realities, though, and having the economy literally depend on large-scale lack of adherence to the law of the land is a bad place to be. Just make sure not to be monstrous about it - don't do the concentration-camps-for-children thing, try to maintain basic asylum access for those who truly need it, and so forth.

[–] Lauchs 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Okay, "secret" confession, I'm a Canadian too. But I can't stop watching American politics, much like I can't help but look when passing a car crash.

I think a more reasonable compromise would be to give Republicans most of what they want on immigration reform.

I strongly agree here. I think this is actually what the Harris campaign is doing. I really hope she smacks donald around on this after he stopped a pretty Right leaning border bill from happening. While I didn't love it all, it does seem much more humane/realistic than donald's current "Deport 'em all!" mantra.

[–] Rhynoplaz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Speaking of... In the off chance that Trump does win, how are Canada's immigration policies?

[–] Lauchs 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Real tough. (Which kind of makes me roll my eyes when fellow Canadians criticize the American Right on immigration.

We have a points based system, you get points for education, skills etc. (And some specialized seasonal programs etc.)

That being said, we do take in a boatload of refugees so maybe you can claim asylum?

[–] Rhynoplaz 1 points 3 months ago

We have a points based system, you get points for education, skills etc.

Well, shit. Guess I'm stuck here.