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“You criticize society, yet you participate in it? Curious…”
Judging by your username, I’m going to guess you’re a communist. Will you continue to participate in this forum using a computing device that was produced by a capitalist economic system? If you demand this level of ideological purity, it seems rather hypocritical.
China is state capitalist, as evidenced by the fact that the phone you bought was manufactured there via cheap labor.
You are completely ignorant in how the real world works.
Labour costs are artificially kept low in the global south due to imperialism. The US’ dollar hegemony helps them artificially depreciate Global South currencies, in which you, a Westerner benefits immensely from.
Low wages doesn’t signify anything about the mode of production. Truthfully, wage labour existed even prior to capitalism.
You don’t even know what you are talking about but you, in typical orientalist and racist fashion, thinks you know anything about a civilisation that has lasted 4000 years.
What is fact is that China has had the highest wage growth for the past few decades, which taking into account its 1.3billion population, means it has have helped uplift more people out of poverty than the entire population of the West.
Calling China “state capitalist” is an insult to all the people that were colonized by the Europeans, where ACTUAL capitalism destroyed, pillaged and genocided entire civilisations for the benefit of Capital, which is still happening btw.
Well I wouldn't exactly use the name of a political party as evidence for whether or not they actually follow that ideology... There are plenty of examples for the fact that the name is not the deciding factor but what they actually do. And, considering the definition of communism, it is kinda weird to consider China communist just because that's the name the leading party gave themselves.
I just think that "Authoritarian Regime" or similar isn't something a party would call itself.
You're delusional.
Xiaomi sure as hell isn't a "workers' cooperative" - it's literally a public stock company traded on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange for crying out loud! And I don't think anyone would doubt the fact Xiaomi's engineers are paid well, well at least the ones that actually work for it and aren't the employees of affiliate-startups that are part of the Mijia-ecosystem, but Xiaomi like everyone else, even Fairphone, uses the unethically-treated and underpaid Chinese factory-worker labour-pool exactly like everyone else - as disposible cogs in a well-oiled tat-producing machine.