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I'm a huge fan of the original joke, but I actually feel like this is misinformation that could be bad for the campaign and I'm happy to respectfully discuss why I feel that way.
"Misinformation" come on now, do you really think people are gonna see this and think that's an actual conversation?
It's an obvious meme, you can let your hair down and just enjoy it!
Same vibes:
I know I seem like a massive stick in the mud but consider that there are people in this very thread struggling with what was really said and what wasn't. I fucking love the jokes and I love batting them among us but this image where it implies he's actually doing these more overt crass things is exactly the sort of image I'd expect my MAGA dad to share as proof of how satanic Walz is.
The stakes are high and memes are a big part of this election, moreso than in 2016 or 2020, and I know how fucking onlinechan that sounds but it's true, in a very mainstream way.
If it wasn't this picture, your dad would find something entirely made up AND unfunny to share instead. It was never intended to change his mind and the odds are it wouldn't whether or not memes like this existed.
This is meant to get people who ARE reachable energized to vote through humor. And it's obviously working. The malaise everyone had with Biden has become hope!
I am not an American but I sure hope as hell he did say that stuff because it's hilarious (obviously I don't think this conversation actually happened but at least a politician who says "Vladimir Futon" feels more like a politician I can trust)
He did say that he would debate Vance if Vance was "willing to get up off the couch"
I mean, I get it in a way, but isn't it a bit of a lost cause kind of a lost cause? Like, does it matter if your dad thinks Walz is satanic because of a meme about couch fucking when the same person also will probably fall for birther conspiracies, ivermectin, flat earth shit?
Weird and couch fucking have nothing on killing thousands with conspiracies and attempting to subvert democracy on the daily. They're basically all in good fun.
My dad is a lost cause and he will share a bunch of shit with vulnerable media-immunocompromised independents and most of it won't land, but something like this would. Especially if some of those independents are seeking a return to decorum and decency in their politicians and credibly believe Tim Walz is eagerly engaging in the same kind of name calling Trump is. Especially after news networks have run headlines about how Walz is going to be the MAGA attack dog or whatever. People are primed to believe this shit. Not people like you and me, stupid people that can also vote.
But by all means, enjoy the memes. I know how I sound but I'm also pretty sure I'm right.
Walz will be your Dad now.
I understand your concern and understand what you're saying. My dad voted for Trump in 2016 and I spent 4 years grinding to change his mind and educate him. He voted for Joe in 2020. It's your responsibility to have difficult conversations with your dad and share your views. I'm not saying you can change his mind but you should be explaining to him what a meme is and how it's not real life. You'll be much more understanding and have a kinder touch than some rando that hears him sharing his views and doesn't take kindly to them. I appreciate your eagerness to explain your reasoning but I would argue that energy would be better spent educating your dad rather than telling the internet not to meme.
https://lemmy.ca/comment/10904415
Did you just link the meme? If that's the case let me emphasize that it's YOUR responsibility to educate your dad the world will not do it for you. You have the ability to do something about your dad and you cannot do anything about memes on the internet. Your energy responding to anything on Lemmy is wasted energy. You cannot convince someone not to meme but you might have the ability to change the mind of someone in your life. Good luck bud.
I linked you to this comment which addresses the fundamental misunderstanding you are under:
My dad is a lost cause and he will share a bunch of shit with vulnerable media-immunocompromised independents and most of it won't land, but something like this would. Especially if some of those independents are seeking a return to decorum and decency in their politicians and credibly believe Tim Walz is eagerly engaging in the same kind of name calling Trump is. Especially after news networks have run headlines about how Walz is going to be the MAGA attack dog or whatever. People are primed to believe this shit. Not people like you and me, stupid people that can also vote.
But by all means, enjoy the memes. I know how I sound but I'm also pretty sure I'm right.
Fundamental misunderstanding? The misunderstanding is you think the world should cater to the uneducated and uninformed. Your dad isn't a lost cause but crusading on the internet to remove memes might be.
I'm speaking of the way the world is at this present, very pivotal moment, not the way it should be.
And I'm not crusading, I'm discussing and I am advocating a position in those discussions. Are you able to appreciate the distinction?
Idiots vote, and idiots pass memes around. You can think I'm being an alarmist all you want but the concept is very simple and you should at least consider that you aren't as media literate as you think you are.
The concept is simple, go talk to your dad and stop wasting time on the internet lol
I think he's talking about how JD Vance (probably) didn't actually make sweet sweet love to his couch, enjoy its supple leather curves, or moan as the couch rattled.
I need memory erasing drugs, that CIA-grade shit please.
prolonged use turns your skin orange, you sure you want to do this?
I miss these memes so much
I agree, a subtle reference like he did was funny but they should leave it at that, there's more than enough substantial stuff to run on.
I'm on board with you. It can seem easy to stoop to their level but disinformation tactics are harmful in the long term no matter who is using them.
I'd rather talk about what a peice of shit he is than about something outright false and easily disproven.
Nobody is stopping you from doing so.
But remember to enjoy the lulz. I don't think the couch meme in its own hurts the man ... Everyone understands that the Internet goes wild with stuff. It's his policies that make him dodgy as hell, but sometimes we gotta stop and appreciate the spectacle of it all.
the right is filled with hypocrites lol. Y'all set the new standard when you were a-ok with Trump shitting on captured soldiers calling them losers, and all the thousands of lies he told. but one guy makes a joke online and you want to cry about it?
that time has passed. We are going to swing that pendulum hard with every dirty trick you used on us.
zero sympathy, bury these fascists under mounds of embarrassment.
JD wears as much eyeliner as a 16 year old girl, there are so many things we can make fun of.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? I'm coming at this from the left.
We are in the post fact era. We've been trying facts since 2016 and they just bounce off them. Insults are the only thing that matter to them. That's their language. We're multilingual, they aren't.
Literally nobody is making it out to be real information. It's a meme, and it's hilarious precisely because of how it deconstructs the new absurdist zeitgeist while also intersecting with the "JD Vance is fucking weird" meme