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[–] aodhsishaj 178 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Polls don't mean shit. Vote. Write in your fucking grandma for all I care but vote, and bring your friends. Make a party of it. Or sign up for mail in ballot if you still can, and tell your friends, family, strangers in the grocery line, coworkers, scream into the black void. VOTE.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Uh don't commit voter fraud wtf

Edit oh you probably mean grandma for president. I'm in

[–] aodhsishaj 21 points 3 months ago

Yes I was referencing a standard write in ballot with <Grandma's Name> being the independent candidate

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Illinois just mails me a ballot before every election. Super convenient, it’s a shame more states don’t do it.

[–] morphballganon 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dee 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Imagine my shock of the voting process when moving from Texas to Oregon. From pulling teeth to vote to getting it delivered on a silver platter. It feels so unconstitutional down there.

[–] morphballganon 11 points 3 months ago

Yep, that's by design.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

They mean something but there’s a thing called polling error, which news outlets studiously ignore.

The race is essentially tied currently. The danger of the new reich is very real.

[–] Nuke_the_whales 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I still remember all the polls saying Hillary was gonna win and how confident the Dems got.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I’ve asked this before, what does Lemmy have against polling? You guys know that people aren’t using polls as a substitute for voting, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Arguably the first time Trump got elected the polls saying he couldn't win played a large part in that. People felt safe not voting in protest of Hillary because "there's no way Trump can win anyway."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The polls were generally within the margins of error…. Dems need at least 5% more than repubs to win electoral college. The polls were not that far off, they were within the margins of error

Hillary got a little too cocky and assumed it was her birthright or whatever weird shit that was

[–] aodhsishaj 6 points 3 months ago

I cannot speak for the whole of Lemmy, but anything but exit polls tend to have multiple issues. The way that they're used in popular media tends to fuel horse race politics.

Here's the Pew Research Center, likely the largest polling organization in the US outside of the US Census. https://www.pewresearch.org/methods/2023/04/19/how-public-polling-has-changed-in-the-21st-century/

Here's how they can fuel partisanship when that bias is not taken into account by the media https://phys.org/news/2020-10-political-scientist-negative-partisanship-voters.html

Here's what I mean when I say horse race politics. https://journalistsresource.org/politics-and-government/horse-race-reporting-election/

[–] Triasha 1 points 3 months ago

Ptsd. We have been burned before.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Polls are bullshit and cause stupid. Also they are getting increasingly biased as time goes on, seriously some still only use land lines.