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[–] Boddhisatva 115 points 5 months ago (4 children)

I thought we already knew that he was selling pardons.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but now he could do it legally (well full immunity making legality ~~mute~~ moot).

[–] neatchee 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hey, just FYI, the term is actually "moot".

Not trying to be rude, I just I know I prefer to be told about stuff like this ❤️

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] FuglyDuck 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

naw. that's when legality needs less cowbell

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a cow's opinion. It's moo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

He made sense there

[–] kautau 1 points 5 months ago

Less cowbell? How am I supposed to cure my fever?

[–] billiam0202 4 points 5 months ago

Have I been living with Joey too long, or did that actually make sense?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ah good catch, not sure if I mistyped or mobile auto-correct got me. I think I even looked the word up to make sure I was spelling it correct (I always want to add an "e" on the end). And no rudeness taken on this side, I appreciate it. Thanks! =)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes but now he can be even more explicit about it, put it right in official communications.

[–] someguy3 11 points 5 months ago

Now fortified with immunity! A part of a complete ~~breakfast~~ autocracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And wasn't it basically already legal? I don't think there's a lot of regulation around it (at least as codified in law, I know in the last few decades presidents deferred to a vetting process through DOJ, but none of that is mandatory).

[–] Boddhisatva 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The president's power to pardon federal crimes is not really limited in the constitution except to exclude cases of impeachment. That is generally accepted to mean that the power of the pardon is otherwise nearly unlimited except perhaps that one cannot pardon oneself. There is no specific rule or law against giving a pardon in exchange for payment, though it is clearly considered by most as unethical.

[–] Zak 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There is no specific rule or law against giving a pardon in exchange for payment

Yes there is: 18 USC § 201 (b) (2).

Granting the pardon isn't the part that's illegal; soliciting or receiving the payment in exchange is. The ruling doesn't change that, but could make the prosecution of that act more difficult in certain edge cases.

[–] Boddhisatva 1 points 5 months ago

Thanks for correcting me. Always happy to learn!