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[–] essell 60 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Wesley Crusher. I always liked him

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

I am only a few years younger than Wesley was in TNG. He was someone with whom I could identify. I never got the Wesley hate, and if it was not for the internet I would not know there was any.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] essell 1 points 5 months ago
[–] Today 2 points 5 months ago

Wesley Crusher is a real fake person?

[–] HelluvaKick 2 points 5 months ago

The Boy?!?! baker street sax plays

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really? What's to like about him?

[–] Brunbrun6766 45 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

An ambitious smart young man who has clear life goals and the drive to serve the federation and push the limits of human expansion and discovery? His character is to show that all generations young and old are willing to further humanity's/the federation's goals of a peaceful coexistence and cooperation for greater prosperity for ALL.

Some of Wesley's haters often come across as honestly jealous that THEY couldn't be born into such a time and place.

Edit: furthermore, a character like Wesley is SUPPOSED to be the way he is. It's not the actor it is the character. Young viewers were meant to look at him as a mirror to themselves, a way to imagine yourself in such a universe, someone to identify with and better put your mind into the headspace of the story.

While Riker is cool and funny, you are not Riker.

While Picard is cool and professional, you are not Picard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fair.

I just always found him annoying and nothing much else.

[–] Brunbrun6766 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Try rewatching with this context?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Sorry, but no amount of context would ever make Wesley not annoying to me. I don't hate the character, I just don't like him, period. 🤷

[–] fishos -1 points 5 months ago

The context that's he's supposed to be an annoying child? You're really not getting that people can dislike a character that is "well done". Yes, he's well done.... as an annoying child who tries to act like he's on the same level as Picard and Riker. He's the equivalent of internet comments.

[–] TheDoozer 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He had a tendency to be immediately dismissive, impatient, and often outright insulting to other cultures and non-Federation types. The kid needed some humility, and often showed his age and closed-mindedness when he shut out ideas that didn't come from his superiors.

[–] Brunbrun6766 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's called "being a teenager" and having a character which the others can offer corrective criticism that is also a message to the younger viewers by proxy

[–] TheDoozer 4 points 5 months ago

Oh, no, I get that, I'm just saying those things make him annoying. It gives lots of opportunity for character development, but he's still annoying until he develops.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] fishos 0 points 5 months ago

In a show otherwise filled with adults. This why we hate him. It's a common trope that when you add a child/baby actor in a show that otherwise doesn't have them, the show becomes worse. Wesley absolutely fits.

[–] toddestan 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Personally, I didn't really mind Wesley in the later seasons and a few of the Wesley-centric episodes were pretty good. It's really the first season, and even more so the first few episodes of the first season where he was annoying as all hell. Oh look, boy wonder saves the ship, yet again. Unfortunately that kind of seems to have stuck with the character, despite the show toning down his antics significantly after that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

The later Wesley episodes are good because you see him as a bright young man trying to do right in the world rather than a precocious kid who solves problems the grown-ups can't.

The writers didn't really know how to write the Crusher-Picard relationship(s) in the early seasons.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

First season Wesley is sad to hear you didn't like him