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[–] TotallynotJessica 24 points 6 days ago (14 children)

This is mostly true for nationalistic American liberals. China is the opposing empire to America, while many see Japan as this "country uplifted by America." This attitude isn't new and isn't consciously held by most people that parrot it. Most don't know any better and many would accept the nuances if presented respectfully.

Empires occasionally do good when it serves their interests, while every country has serious issues they need to deal with. You can still oppose authoritarians or be a weeb without needing to ignore reality.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (11 children)

Or maybe because China is an authoritarian hell where there's no political freedom? idk

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (8 children)

Unlike America where you get to choose between: genocide in Gaza and uhm… also genocide in Gaza.

The way Chinese elite keep themselves in power is different from the way American elites keep them selves in power, but in the end what does it matter to you. Or do you want America to bring democracy to China at the end of a riffle, or be racist against Chinese people and Culture because you don’t agree with their government?

Edit: for the people (purposely?) misreading my comment, nowhere do I excuse the actions of China. I just want to point out that this rhetoric of condemning the human rights abuses of geo-strategic rivals is a known strategy that has a body count counted in millions. And pointing at Gaza is not a whataboutism, it is to show that Americas deep care for the Uyghurs or Taiwan independence is purely about cynical power.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago

America's authoritarianism doesn't make China's authoritarianism any better. They can both be shitty, buckaroo.

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