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Or maybe because China is an authoritarian hell where there's no political freedom? idk
Unlike America where you get to choose between: genocide in Gaza and uhm… also genocide in Gaza.
The way Chinese elite keep themselves in power is different from the way American elites keep them selves in power, but in the end what does it matter to you. Or do you want America to bring democracy to China at the end of a riffle, or be racist against Chinese people and Culture because you don’t agree with their government?
Edit: for the people (purposely?) misreading my comment, nowhere do I excuse the actions of China. I just want to point out that this rhetoric of condemning the human rights abuses of geo-strategic rivals is a known strategy that has a body count counted in millions. And pointing at Gaza is not a whataboutism, it is to show that Americas deep care for the Uyghurs or Taiwan independence is purely about cynical power.
America's authoritarianism doesn't make China's authoritarianism any better. They can both be shitty, buckaroo.
Playing that one note song again. Care so much about genocide? Look directly within China’s own borders if you want to see one.
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China’s treatment of Uyghurs is nowhere comparable to what the US and Israel are doing to Palestinians. And assuming that you live in the US, one of these crimes is committed under your name, the other is not.
China isn't forcibly relocating Muslims they find inconvenient, stealing their land, and eradicating their culture while calling it reeducation or anti-extremism?
China isn’t bombing civilians indiscriminately or using famine as a means of waging war.
So the severity of the fascism is more important than the quantity in your mind? Is there a published scale somewhere that you use?
Their point still stands
And that is true. But some people in china making something and putting their hearts in it, does not mean it should be hated on because their government is evil. We shouldn't see the government and the people of a country as a singular thing.
Ffs, of course it is! The wins they do have were all done for self-serving reasons. They occasionally stumble onto the right side of international conflicts, just like America. They sometimes enact effective policies that America doesn't, but they often cause pain and death that no one can complain about. It's an authoritarian empire; of course it's awful!