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[–] t_berium 33 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Humans are not descended from apes. They have the same ancestors.

Why is that so hard to understand?

[–] Klear 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Humans ARE apes. Also fish. Fuck paraphyletic groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A paraphyletic group is a group of any size and systematic rank that originated from a single common ancestor, but does not – as opposed to a monophyletic group – contain all descendants from this ancestor. The ancestral species of this group is thus also the ancestor of one or more other groups

https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/paraphyly

[–] Klear 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] bitwaba 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We are all bacteria on this blessed day.

[–] Klear 1 points 1 week ago

Not really, we're eukaryotes. We share a common (unknown) ancestor, but bacteria split off into their own monophyletic group I'm pretty sure.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Humans are descended from apes, humans are apes, and humans are cousins of the other modern apes.

We're not descended from chimpanzees, but both we and chimpanzees descend from another ape.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Humans are not descended from contemporary apes rather the apes that were around millions of years ago.

Also, if we attain the not-insignificant-anymore possibility of going extinct in the next couple hundred years (like the dinosaurs from famine complicated by drastic climate change, or from too many microplastics in the brain, or from nuclear escalation, which we haven't entirely ruled out) we will have only survived ~250,000 years compared to Homo-Erectus which survived over 2,000,000. But we will get the self-extermination achievement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Also humans have the same ancestors as all known life

[–] FourPacketsOfPeanuts 2 points 1 week ago

Humans are apes. It's monkeys we're not descended from.