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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by someguy3 to c/asklemmy
 

FYI: apparently most Opera is in Italian, then French comes in distant second, German third.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 5 months ago (4 children)

They're actually not in Italian, most famous operas predate the italian language you'd be taught in schools.

People who can speak the dialects those operas were written in are apparently now more common in the Americas than they are in Italy, as Italians who encounter self proclaimed native italian speakers from the Americas consistently complain that either they're speaking some incomprehensible other language or that they sound like someone's nona with how weirdly old fashioned they're talking.

This is actually a pretty funny phenomenon across multiple languages that have undergone standardization in the nationalist era, even including speakers of Chinese languages and Japanese, the rooted well established communities often predate standardization, and so the language "native speakers" learn in modern times can actually be incomprehensible to modern people in the place the language came from.

[–] crypticthree 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The same thing happened with French in Canada

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Not just Canada, Louisiana and Missouri too, they're heavily endangered dialects but they are still documented

[–] ladicius 8 points 5 months ago

I was roughly told the same when I asked native Italians to translate an older choir song from Italy which I liked very much. To them it was mostly like some vaguely familiar sounding language with the occasional understandable word mixed in.

[–] Magister 8 points 5 months ago

Yep, also the famous Funiculì, funiculà is in Neapolitan for instance.

[–] jordanlund 7 points 5 months ago

Same for English, quite a few "American" accents are extinct British accents.

https://owlcation.com/humanities/brits-had-american-accents