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Channel 1 AI released a promotional video explaining how the service will provide personalized news coverage to users from finance to entertainment.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 10 months ago (4 children)

This won't hilariously backfire at all...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I wonder if they've learned anything from the infamous Nothing Forever incident, or the infamous Infinite Steam incident, or any of the other various incidents.

[–] Ghostalmedia 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, it looks like this actually has human editors and isn’t just running as a hands free experiment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Don’t you mean lots of extra fingers on too many hands?

[–] DontTreadOnBigfoot 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Are these the ones where the AI became incredibly racist?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Nothing Forever got a 14 day ban for generating this standup routine:

“There’s like 50 people here and no one is laughing. Anyone have any suggestions? I’m thinking about doing a bit about how being transgender is actually a mental illness. Or how all liberals are secretly gay and want to impose their will on everyone. Or something about how transgender people are ruining the fabric of society. But no one is laughing, so I’m going to stop. Thanks for coming out tonight. See you next time. Where’d everybody go?”

As for Infinite Steam, the only references to the banned clip seem to be on Reddit - and so a massive pain in the ass to access - but I remember the clip in question had Seymour saying something like "Oh no, I burned the Jews!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Tay was such a hilarious snafu. It is, in all likelihood, one of the most influential lessons on AI. Modern models hold no memory of previous conversations for a very good reason.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 10 months ago (4 children)

"they intend to re-create events not captured by camera using generative AI,"

That's going to cause all sorts of problems.

[–] set_secret 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

don't worry they've stated that they'll clearly mark it with an arbitrary symbol, so no one will possibly think it's the real deal.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The deepest of ironies in a company allegedly made to report "facts", primarily using artificiality to do so.

Even if they are completely earnest and honest, the tech they are helping spearhead is going to completely change how information is approached and will be one of the biggest challenges, if not the biggest challenge, we are going to face as a society in a long time. This is really unnerving to watch develop in front of my eyes.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The use of unrelated b-roll and stock footage is already a nightmare in this way. One burning trash can becomes the new standard-bearer for any protest they disagree with for the next year or two. Now they can fine tune it to location ...

Honestly, for the news, these sorts of tricks for effect NEED to be clearly and constantly marked during their use. It is actually dangerous the way they currently do it, imho.

I'm biased enough towards transparency, though I think if they do use AI then they should have to reveal the prompt and model used to make it on top of clearly and constant marking showing it is not actual footage.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wonderful. Nothing will help people differentiate between real, trustworthy news and fake opinion-laden disinformation like AI generated people and content!

/s for the kids in the back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

pour one out for the kids in the back.

[–] Sterile_Technique 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't be any worse than the current model for televised news, which is 2-4 buzzword parrots all attempting to shout over each other without ever attempting to address what the others are saying.

Being human doesn't make it good.

Wake me up when there's a better medium than just plain text.

[–] Usernameblankface 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, the news already has standard looks and standard cadence while reading scripts. A computer made anchor won't go off script, always speaks the same and doesn't decide to change the hairstyle.

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[–] Kiernian 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If they make one of them look and speak like Morbo the Annihilator, I might actually watch.

Like, with the anti-human sentiment and everything.

First Anchor: And today, a local law firm files the first lawsuit in a series over a deadly salmonella outbreak linked to cantaloupe.

Morbo: Next time, we will put the salmonella in more than just the canteloupe.

or maybe:

Morbo: Canteloupe tonight, Bridegroom has the runs!

[–] RampantParanoia2365 27 points 10 months ago (2 children)

............what the fuck is Channel 1?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

Looks like it'll be one of those free streaming channels on things like Pluto TV. So not an actual TV channel.

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[–] MojoMcJojo 24 points 10 months ago

Things are starting to get weird faster than I thought wierd would get here.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hello, I'm Eliza Cassan, and this is a Channel 1 breaking news announcement.

A crackpot video game nerd caused a viral sensation when he livestreamed himself blocking traffic in Times Square, shouting loudly that reality is actually just following the script of some video game from the 1990's, before consuming 10 vials of Zyme, assaulting a pigeon, and then dying of a heart attack.

Onlookers reactions were varied, but most continued on perfectly linear paths, walking by the incident without seeming to notice it.

This segment has been brought to you by Nuke Soda, now available in exciting new lemon-lime. Nuke your thirst with Nuke soda!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does Nuke Soda have electrolytes?

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 23 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This felt a lot like Naked News but y'know I'd rather look at titties while being given a bland delivery and near robotic gestures.

But AI, so I'm sure naked AI news anchors are right around the corner.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ha! I remember that. I watched it once or twice for the novelty of it. I seem to recall that it was very bland except for the naked women. According to Wikipedia, they are still around and I think that may be more shocking than this AI news.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

Fucking hell we're at the point of having Eliza Cassan from Deus Ex Human Revolution be reality aren't we

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This tech is going to completely derail communication and discussion in modern society and all people here are talking about is how weird they look or how it's "the same" as news already. That's...not great.

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[–] yuki2501 21 points 10 months ago

Deus Ex predicted the future once again.

[–] Yewb 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I bet these ones will do exactly what they are told

[–] militaryintelligence 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They said they are accurate, unbiased, and trustworthy. You can trust them...

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[–] Sludgehammer 15 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Okay... so honest question: how long did it take for you to close the linked video?

In my case it was about 45 seconds. The weird hands/body language creeped me out and when combined with the synthetic voices I just couldn't take it.

[–] MojoMcJojo 8 points 10 months ago

It's only going to get better. Soon you won't be able to tell.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I saw it all, albeit without audio. It honestly didn't look that bad to me. They seemed a bit stiff and something was off with the hand gestures, other than that it was visually passable to me.

I wonder how they did it though, and how procedural it can get.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I nominate this for worst idea of the decade.

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[–] foggy 14 points 10 months ago

Yeah, In gonna need names of everyone who contributed a dollar to that before I use it as a news source.

[–] OpenHammer6677 13 points 10 months ago (3 children)

More and more, the human element is being removed from the news. The most horrific events will be reported by blank-faced robots with no empathy to human emotions, at least in AI channels. Imagine what kind of emotional intelligence future people will have when they constantly hear stories from poker-faced (and voiced) human-like images.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Their hand moments took me out instantly. Just the same opening and closing of hands with some variation thrown it made it feel weird.

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[–] Mojojojo1993 9 points 10 months ago

Makes complete sense. I feel zero loyalty or trust towards what anchors are reading from a prompt. Save money and show me random ai generated ones. Better yet let me choose. I'll pick new ones each

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've never heard of channel 1 in the usa, so VERY HEAVILY assume this is fake

[–] Ibex0 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is AI writing click bait stories about AI?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

This is wild. I almost wonder if it’s actually a real thing or an elaborate hoax. It’s impressive in either case.

As far as the concept of AI news, there are obvious drawbacks but also some advantages. In particular, the anchors are less animated and emotional, which eliminates quite a bit of bias. Cable news anchors with their incredulity, snide remarks, and expressions have done a lot to help ruin the news. That alone can easily undermine a story or a guest in a way that causes the audience to pick a side.

The idea of using AI to scour public records and create stories is another really cool idea. There’s so much out there and not enough reporters with the time or inclination to investigate everything.

I’m not too keen on the AI generated imagery, although traditional news outlets essentially do the same thing. It’s a dangerous thing to be presented with artificial pictures and videos in a news format. Before long, you can’t distinguish between reality and artificial, which is more or less the same problem a significant portion of the country has had since the 2016 election. In that case, they were mostly fed stupid memes and fabricated stories on social media. This is a completely different level. In the wrong hands, this is a weapon of mass destruction.

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[–] FlavoredButtHair 6 points 10 months ago

What if AI generates ugly people?

[–] tobybencollaghduff 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

If it means the end of overpaid talking heads then I’m all for it.

[–] MrPoopbutt 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So the executives will be overpaid by the amount the talking heads made plus the amount they were already overpaid by

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[–] RoseRose56 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

bravisimo !!!! why paying to have real humans to say the news, when AI can do it for you? right ? it does not sound dystopian at all, just AI, that will tell you what ever they want it to tell you!(not that now this in't happening.)\

Edit: I didn't mention legislation's, like they don't exist, jobs like this one will be lost, and no one will do something because some politicians will benefit from that. And maybe this is the beginning, wait till they start with other jobs(starting if not started).

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