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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (3 children)

when you can’t afford the ambulance

[–] bappity 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

for Americans, cutting out the ambulance ride would shave off a little of the generational debt they'd incur from that hospital visit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm not defending the awful medical system we have, but there's some misconceptions here.

  1. The initial bill you get from a hospital is the same bill insurance gets so that the hospital and insurance can play the stupid negotiation game. If you call, they will reduce the amount.

  2. [I myself misunderstood this one]

  3. There is no "generational debt." Unless you are a cosigner, you are not responsible for your deceased relatives' debts. If they try to collect from you personally, never accept responsibility for the debt and tell them to kick rocks. The estate of the deceased will be liable and is used to satisfy debtees. This is why it is important to have a professional handle the estate before any divisions are made.

Edit: removed my own misconception.

[–] abbotsbury 6 points 1 year ago

I think having your parents estate liquidated for medical bills can be considered an aspect of "generational debt."

Even ignoring monetary inheritance or real estate, items of sentimental value that would otherwise be bequeathed can be lost due to medical debt.

While strictly true that the debt cannot be inherited, the debt is in the way of anything else being inherited.

[–] ickplant 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it’s more than $500, you have 365 days to pay it or set up a payment plan. After that, it will absolutely appear on your credit report.

[–] theangryseal 3 points 1 year ago

They definitely showed up on mine. When I went to speak with a financial advisor a few years ago about what it would take for me to purchase a house, there the debts were on her computer screen.

I don’t know if they’re supposed to consider those debts, but they are definitely on there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I see you're right, apologies. I misunderstood the change.

[–] bappity 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm joking around obviously it's not to that scale

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

My bad, hard to tell. There are people who believe that, so just wanted to clear it up if that was the case. It could save someone a lot of hassle.

[–] Duamerthrax 2 points 1 year ago

When no one you know who is close by is answering their phone and driving yourself cuts to arrival time is half.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

my thought was that the idea someone needs to find friends or family rather than have societal ems is nuts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

(most of EU is looking at this with horror on their faces)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

How’s talking going to help with a nail in the heart?

[–] Diprount_Tomato 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] takeda 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not only did he drive himself to the ER, but also shot himself as well. Fully self sufficient.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The funny thing about this mindset is it's far more annoying to deal with than if the person just accepted help.

[–] mack7400 6 points 1 year ago

🎶There's a nail in my heart and I don't want to bother yooooou 🎶