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[–] [email protected] 269 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Discord is a disjointed mess that is being abused by many to fill a role it was never designed to fill.

No, I don't want to join your discord to use a half assed search to be able to dig my way through what you think is an FAQ about your game.

[–] [email protected] 143 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Yeah, it really bugs me that it's basically absorbed what used to be public forums and whatnot into its own proprietary bubble where search engines don't reach while not even being a good fit for that kind of thing to begin with

[–] TwanHE 40 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I like discord a lot for support groups for small projects where it's about 50-100 ish people interested in it. But when a project grows and the server grows with it definitely becomes a struggle for people to look back at whats already been discussed so people keep asking the same questions over and over.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago

And there is so much idle chatter to scroll through. I shouldn't have to scan through months of jokes and memes to get updated.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And every gamer and his dog have their own, so communities are adhoc and lackluster. It does the opposite of what forums used to do.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot 77 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Seriously. I hate discord. Its fine for you and friends fucking about and gaming on a saturday night.

but its been turned into an alternative to webforums. Where you have to go to get support and answers. Outside of where a websearch can index and archive.

Discord will eventually lead to a massive, catastrophic loss of information that will be unindexed, unarchived, and unrecoverable.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Jup, it's terrible. Where information goes to die. I wish devs would not use it as much as they do.

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[–] imperator3733 54 points 7 months ago

I'm always frustrated when a game or service says to check out their Discord for information. Discord is a confusing mess of chat channels, and while it can certainly be useful in (near-)realtime interactions, I can't imagine trying to look up longer-lived information, like what they're trying to use it for. Make a forum, or a blog, or use a subreddit, but not Discord.

I think the most recent case of this was the game Terra Invicta, where I saw a tangential reference somewhere to some coming updates to the game, and a game rep said to check their Discord for more details. No thanks.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's an overwhelming mess of everything. So many things going on at once - notifications, badges, mentions, boosts, stickers, voice chats, kitchen sink ....

I just can't force myself to use it. My brain is accustomed to a minimalist UX, not whatever that is.

[–] PrettyLights 12 points 7 months ago

AGS took their working forums for Lost Ark and other games, deprecated them and turned them to read only and switched entirely to Discord.

The tin foil hat side of me says it's so all the complaints stopped showing up in Search Engine results. Also no pesky archives or waybackmachine to properly inform customers.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot 127 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Bullshit. Its on a quest to monetize the platform, thats all its doing.

If it wanted to be a better communication platform it wouldnt be adding all this pointless superfluous shit that exists only for nickle and diming.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

Yeah the app is bloated as shit

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (6 children)

And somehow making the UI worse every single update. HOW?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

As long as they allow for free streaming and file sharing, they will need to monetize. That stuff gets real expensive real fast.

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[–] eager_eagle 109 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

idk how else to put it, but discord feels like an information black hole with adhd

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago

Once it scrolls past the top of the screen it's gone.

Once one person gets a bit too giddy and posts 2 memes, your chat is now all garbage. Half of the people involved will have muted it already.

[–] dinckelman 59 points 7 months ago

It was a great messaging app, before all the extra bullshit was added to it. The focus was on doing one thing, and doing it right. Now they do 35 different things, and abandon them in favor of mtx for profiles

[–] atrielienz 53 points 7 months ago (4 children)

If they could stop trying to foist nitro on me that would be great.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (15 children)

Bandwidth isn't free, they gotta make money somehow

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Walled-gardens are fundamentally bad for communication. Discord is not a solution, it’s a problem.

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[–] Resol 51 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I miss the early days of Discord. Nowadays it's just a lot of advertising for their Nitro service.

Not even their marketing videos are fun anymore. Why can't they just bring Zencha back?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

You usually know a company is slowly going to shit when they start to be serious and stop doing fun in their products and ads. Then you know lawyers and shareholders and people who think you can only do business with a straight face started to take over the company. Which is just sad.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 7 months ago (7 children)

"Better messaging app" my bubble ass

Keeps changing ui every month for no reason Keeps adding disgracting prolife fluff that looks like shit. (Neither can be turned off) Support is abbysmal. Linux client is garbage. (Screenshare anyone) Bloated mess. Hates mods and custom clients. Too big ( had a server of 3k people, know how many people I got to switch?90) Their team us a bunch of pedophile furry porn lovers.

Fuck. Them.

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[–] just_another_person 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Are they? How? This article doesn't explain anything about functioning, just some design changes.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (31 children)

Discord is an absolute piece of garbage, it's not a good messaging app, definitely not a good place to host a community (seriously, I don't understand why some communities saw Discord as an alternative after the Reddit API changes), and most importantly, it's spyware. The company doesn't have a business model and it was founded by a guy who is notorious for creating random shit that's not economically sustainable at all. I don't understand why anyone would use this shit. This video outlines everything that's wrong with Discord: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uvNkdAggUGU

Switch to Revolt or Matrix

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 7 months ago (12 children)

Here's an idea to start making it better: ditch fucking electron. There are alternatives that won't need complete code rewrite or language change (tauri, neutralino). Better yet, actually go ahead with a full language change and pick Dart + Flutter, that shit is crossplat.

But we all know they won't, because fuck you, "ram is cheap". Good luck upgrading the ram on your phone.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 months ago

Is it becoming FOSS or supporting any meaningful level privacy?

[–] yamanii 32 points 7 months ago (6 children)

They need to try way harder.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Discord is spyware and all of my friends are the laziest most boring people for thinking they should spend their entire social lives on one app.

[–] _number8_ 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

plus doesn't it just feel awful to use as software? the way lemmy looks and responds to clicks is night and day versus the le epic gamer kid dark mode awful buggy weird PC web view thing discord does where like, if you want to copy and paste you have to use their little tooltip menu which sucks instead of the system one. every time you launch it it forces you to wait 10 minutes for it to download every piddly little update which probably sucks and doesn't matter....

lemmy is buggy and has its flaws as well of course but it's just like...this is a good solid website. good bones. like the old days.

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[–] deranger 11 points 7 months ago (21 children)

I see a few claims of spyware in here. Not that I doubt you, but where can I find out more?

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, there is one way to make it better, but it won't happen until they're forced to change: force them to integrate with the matrix protocol

yes, I know that it's possible to use a bridge, and I do it, but it still requires a discord account, it would be great if discord rooms were just accessible with the matrix protocol

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can not find anything in there. I can not favorite messages to find them again. It is a hole where everything your write is virtually there, but practically lost.

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[–] Tattorack 16 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The only thing I want is a good Discord update for Linux. Streaming with sound still doesn't work and Discord hogs more CPU resources than on Windows.

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[–] FlavoredButtHair 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

If I wanted to get there I wouldn't start from here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What are people using for gaming/chat other than discord?

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