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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (1 children)

To be honest, Ubuntu likely has nothing to do with it and I find the headline therefore misleading. It's mostly the Linux kernel from how it reads.

Ubuntu 23.10 was run for providing a clean, out-of-the-box look at this common desktop/workstation Linux distribution. Benchmarks of other Linux distributions will come in time in follow-up Phoronix articles. But for the most part the Ubuntu 23.10 performance should be largely similar to that of other modern Linux distributions with the exception of Intel's Clear Linux that takes things to the extreme or those doing non-default tinkering to their Linux installations.

[–] TheWilliamist 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

I wonder why they went with a version of Windows 11 Pro instead of Windows 11 Pro for workstations?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I haven’t used windows regularly since windows vista, is there an actual difference between those two version in performance?

[–] TheWilliamist 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It’s supposed to be tuned more toward heavy workflows, such as rendering and CAD. It has support for more RAM (6TB) and quad SMP along with ReFS, and SMB Direct.

I only found out about it because we needed a beastly set up for combining lidar and drone aerials in Autodesk.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can you buy that, or do you have to get it bundled with the machine?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Turns out you can actually buy it. I was under the impression it was for OEMs only.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-11-pro-for-workstations/dg7gmgf0kr4m

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They said they tested using the version of Windows preinstalled by HP, as (presumably) HP would have fine-tuned it for the machine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Preinstalled by the OEM? That sounds like it has Windows bloat and HP proprietary bloat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

ugh. does that allow more than one rdp I wonder?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Do a Gentoo test with correct compilation parameters! Or just Arch, Fedora or Opensuse Tumbleweed okay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Let's see Paul Allen's Threadripper performance...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Going back to the original AMD Ryzen Threadripper processors, Linux has long possessed a performance lead over Microsoft Windows.

With Linux typically being the dominant OS of HPC systems and other large core count servers, the Linux kernel scheduler has coped better than various flavors of Windows when dealing with high core count processors.

Ubuntu 23.10 was run for providing a clean, out-of-the-box look at this common desktop/workstation Linux distribution.

The HP Z6 G5 A for all testing was configured with the Ryzen Threadripper PRO 7995WX at default frequencies, 8 x 16GB DDR5-5200 Hynix RDIMMs, Samsung MZVL21T0HCLR-00BH1 NVMe SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX A4000 16GB graphics.

A full review on the HP Z6 G5 A Threadripper workstation will be published in a separate article on Phoronix in early December.

From there the up-to-date Windows 11 Pro Build 22631 (H2'23) was tested against Ubuntu 23.10 with its stable release updates.


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