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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Retaliatory nuclear strike.

Retaliatory...

So, they rehearsed their response to getting nuked first.

Well, since no one plans to nuke them...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Retaliatory can mean whatever Putin wants it to mean. It can mean returning the annexed regions to Ukraine.

[–] avater 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

comes as Moscow is locked in what it casts as an existential standoff with the West over Ukraine.

those dipshits have done this to themselves.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also aren't locked into it. They can leave Ukraine at any given day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Also Putin can turn himself in anytime.

Hey Putin I hear the weather in The Hague is nice this time of year you can visit anytime.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if Russians would be dissapointed to learn that here in the West, few people think about them at all. Not necessarily a good thing, Ukraine needs our continued support, but still. Russia's basically less newsworthy than a d-list celebrity's latest affair.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

They know, they are counting on it. The news cycle moves on, people forget and then things like elections happen. Then policies change and support for Ukraine fades away. As soon as that happens, they get to commit genocide and claim the country for themselves.

At the same time China is taking notes, so they can figure out how long you need to fight a war and get away with it. They have a couple of countries they have their eye on at the moment.

[–] Mostly_Gristle 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this a shocking headline for people who weren't alive when the Cold War was still going on? Because when I was a kid Russia making plans for nuclear retaliation was just a typical weekday.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

... just like they do every October.

[–] TooLazyDidntName 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but if you said this was a regurally scheduled drill, the acticle wouldn't seem as interesting!

The US does this every year too, it is critical to the concept of mutually assured destruction. Both sides have to continually demonstrate the ability to annihilate the other in order to deter each other from actually launching a strike.

[–] random_character_a 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

With the level of corruption they have in the reqular army, I'm pretty sure their fissile material is long past it's prime and is now crumbly garbage.

Because why wouldn't you steal maintenance funds from a weapon that will never be used and if it's used nothing really matters anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This is a case where you opponent cannot afford to be pretty sure

You can have 85% malfunctional and 10% intercepted the ones working are enough to be a problem

[–] CADmonkey 4 points 1 year ago

And not just fissile materials, but things like fuel, and machinery needed to run the rocket itself (high speed pumps full of precision parts, electronics, inertial guidance systems) along with the launch facility itself...

[–] SARGEx117 13 points 1 year ago

Well, since nobody is hiding in bunkers waiting for the fallout to dissipate and radiation levels to drop far enough that quick surface travel is survivable, I'm gonna call bullshit.

They may have done a thought exercise like how sometimes you might get super bored and go "what if that old man goes crazy and pulls out a sword" and plan out a fight scene.

There is no "we did a test of our nuclear strike response" because no matter what that plan is, it will not work. No battle plan survives contact with the enemy, everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth. Your nuclear response plans mean fuckall when 80% of the people involved in your test will be dead in under 30 minutes. What is the estimate now? Like 12-20 minutes of warning?

[–] Coreidan 7 points 1 year ago

Does anyone believe them tho? They have a continuous history of being dishonest.

They can’t even participate in the Olympics without trying to cheat/lie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They better!

Deterrence doesn’t work if your adversary doesn’t know how launch in time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Oct 25 (Reuters) - Russia has successfully tested its ability to deliver a massive retaliatory nuclear strike by land, sea and air, a Kremlin statement said on Wednesday, a display of force which coincides with Moscow de-ratifying a landmark nuclear test ban treaty.

The exercise, which involved the test launch of missiles from a land-based silo, a nuclear submarine, and from long-range bomber aircraft, comes as Moscow is locked in what it casts as an existential standoff with the West over Ukraine.

"In the course of the events, the level of preparedness of the military command authorities and the skills of the senior and operational staff in organising subordinate troops (forces) were tested," it said.

Video footage of the exercise published by the defence ministry showed the land and submarine-based missiles noisily streaking into the night sky and nuclear-capable bomber aircraft taking off from an airfield under the cover of darkness.

Russia would only resume such testing - a move that Western military experts believe it might be tempted to do to signal intent and evoke fear in any standoff with the West - if the United States did so first, Moscow has said.

The only reason Russia says it is revoking its withdrawal of the CTBT is to bring itself into line with Washington which signed but never ratified the same document.


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[–] REdOG 2 points 1 year ago

I rehearsed a world with a democratic Russia.

Then I sobered up and said fuck Putin.