Republicans couldn't govern their way out of a paper bag.
this post was submitted on 21 Oct 2023
238 points (96.1% liked)
politics
19239 readers
2940 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
not with out setting the bag on fire, and then blowing it up with.
Then blaming it on the other party
To be fair, the dems did step on that dog crap.
GODDAMMIT!! LORAINNE! THE REPUBLICANS JUST PUT DOG CRAP ON OUR PORCH AGAIN! OF COURSE I STEPPED ON IT, IT WAS ON FIRE! YES, MY GOOD SHOES!
Because they have no interest in governing, they want to rule. They want a rigid hierarchy with a strong white man at the top who rules by decree. They want to be able to do whatever they want while dictating how everyone else lives their life. Religion is the primary driver of this type of thinking, thus the reason it's a cancer to modern society.
It tricked them! You try not to get tricked by a paper bag!
The Party couldn't govern their way out of a paper bag.
FTFY
Just pick someone who isn't completely fucking insane. And then vote for him. Problem solved.
Yes, but these are the republicans you're talking about.
*Problem identified.
The problem is that the far right members of Congress, almost by definition, will only accept someone who is fucking insane, and republicans need at least a few of their votes to elect a new speaker without democrats.
Why are all of trump’s friends a bunch of losers?
Misery loves company
Prerequisite
Tonight's news: The Republican Party burns itself to the ground.
Me: 🍿
You realize they're going to take the rest of the country with them if they can't get their shit together, right? The debt ceiling deal they made earlier only kicked the can for like six(?) weeks, and I half expect them to spend that entire time on Speaker infighting.
Sure, but I want the Republican Party to suffer for what they have done to this country over the past 6-7 years. In my naive little mind, they will eventually correct their course for the betterment of the country.
The Republican party is the way it is today because all they care about is causing suffering and pain to the other party. It's more important to have a working government than it is to want to hurt a political party. If you wanna keep the issues going, then keep focusing on making others suffer. I personally want a government focused on working for the people, so that's what I focus on.
Republicans: dumpster fire.
Me: 🔥 🍡 🍡
They need 4 votes or 20 abstentions. Working with democrats should be easy.
We need to take to the streets if we don’t have a functional federal government by the end of next week. We’re paying taxes to these clowns, yet not even the bare minimum is getting accomplished.
🤡
They should just change the rules that you can not remove a speaker but only replace him (Constructive vote of no confidence).
That gives the new Speaker candidate an unfair advantage, though, because there is no way to express disapproval in the current Speaker without endorsing the other guy. There would have been no leverage for Democrats to endorse Jeffries over whatever schmo Republicans nominate. And throughout this process, Democrats absolutely need to be able to say "We want our guy to be Speaker"!
They would be able to do so in the initial election of the speaker. They could also file a (pointless) motion for Jeffries to replace McCarthy. On Gaetz's "Jordan should replace McCarthy" motion they would just abstain.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
More than two weeks after a handful of House conservatives ousted Kevin McCarthy from the speaker's chair, the party is still looking for a someone who can successfully reach the top of the board.
His week-long quest to win the top job in the House ended up as futile as his party's first pick, Steve Scalise, who threw in the towel before any ballots had been cast.
He co-founded the House Freedom Caucus, which has used political brinksmanship - under threat of government shutdowns and even a national default on the debt - to bend centrist and establishment Republicans farther to the right.
He is embraced by a conservative media ecosystem anchored by Fox News evening talk-show hosts like Sean Hannity.
"The most popular Republican in the United States Congress was just knifed by a secret ballot," Congressman Matt Gaetz, whose objection to Mr McCarthy started this whole crises, told reporters on Friday.
When one candidate ultimately emerges from closed-door Republican meetings as the pick of the party, the slow grind to get to 217 votes - and the speaker's gavel - begins again.
The original article contains 534 words, the summary contains 184 words. Saved 66%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
I feel like it's important to remember that this does nothing to change the beliefs of the lunatic right. The fact that they can't govern or even decide on a leader and are breaking a part of the government is NOT a negative.
For many of their constituency, it either doesn't matter or is a an implicit (or explicit) positive. The House could simply never elect a leader, cause the inevitable catastrophic consequences that would follow, and it would simply reaffirm their allegiance and belief structure.
Think about that. That's the thing that makes me truly worried we are actually seeing a full breakdown of American democracy: that for many, several of whom are members of the House, the full breakdown Is. The. Point.