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ATLANTA (AP) — Lawyer Sidney Powell pleaded guilty to reduced charges Thursday over efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election in Georgia, becoming the second defendant in the sprawling case to reach a deal with prosecutors.

Spicy! I wonder what she gave up.

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[–] cedarmesa 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
[–] TechyDad 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a very light punishment because it's a plea deal. Basically, she's given a slap on the wrist in exchange for both pleading guilty and for providing testimony against a bigger fish.

If the options were "Sydney Powell ends up in prison for life, but Trump walks free" or "Sydney Powell gets a slap on the wrist, but Trump ends up behind bars," then I'll give Sydney the wrist slap any day.

Would I rather they all go to prison? Sure, but sometimes prosecutors give the smaller fish generous plea deals in order to trap bigger fish.

[–] acceptable_pumpkin 3 points 1 year ago

Well sure, if those are the deals. What it should have been is life in prison, or 10 years in prison.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Didn't a similar thing happen after the Civil War?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As part of the deal, she will serve six years of probation, will be fined $6,000 and will have to write an apology letter to Georgia and its residents. She also agreed to testify truthfully against her co-defendants at future trials.

They gave her what barely amounts to a slap on the wrist. I hope they did so in exchange for some pretty damning testimony.

[–] qwertyqwertyqwerty 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they have to be lenient to give the other co-dependents incentive to flip.

[–] ilinamorato 29 points 1 year ago

This exactly. The goal is and has always been to get the guy at the top. They'll let everyone else off a little easier in pursuit of the primary goal.

[–] TipRing 11 points 1 year ago

Probation isn't nothing, but this type of deal is an incentive to testify against others.

[–] assembly 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if this will at least prevent Powell from practicing law.

[–] JustZ 6 points 1 year ago

I think it's a maybe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's a manicure.

[–] Red_October 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's amazing how frequently Trump's lawyers end up convicted of serious crimes. Combine that with his history of refusing to pay them and it makes you wonder why even the sludge scraped off the bottom of the barrel is willing to represent him these days.

[–] TechyDad 14 points 1 year ago

Because each sludge lawyer thinks "sure, Trump stiffed all his previous lawyers and many of them ended up in prison and/or losing their law licenses, but I'm smart and loyal to Trump. This won't happen to ME!"

A few months later, they are facing prison and a brand new lawyer is telling themselves that THEY won't go through this because THEY are smart and loyal. And the cycle continues.

[–] ggBarabajagal 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It sounds like this Scott Graham Hall guy flipped on Sidney. So now who's Sidney going to flip on?

She was in a lot of meetings with a lot of people, including Trump and Giuliani. I bet she has a lot to say about that.

[–] baronvonj 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's how a RICO case against the mob works. It's flips all the way up to the top.

[–] SkyezOpen 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Nobody 19 points 1 year ago

The Kraken has turned state's evidence. Time for more rats to jump ship. The probation only deals are likely to be very limited time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Spicy! I wonder what she gave up.

Given how solid Fani Willis's case already is, I'm betting it's going to be some witness cooperation.

Either way, her co-conspirators should be more than a little concerned.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Donald Trump is going to die in custody.

[–] KnightontheSun 11 points 1 year ago

Don’t threaten me with a good time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


ATLANTA (AP) — Lawyer Sidney Powell pleaded guilty to reduced charges Thursday over efforts to overturn Donald Trump’s loss in the 2020 election in Georgia, becoming the second defendant in the sprawling case to reach a deal with prosecutors.

Powell, who was charged alongside Trump and 17 others with violating the state’s anti-racketeering law, entered the plea just a day before jury selection was set to start in her trial.

She was initially charged with racketeering and six other counts as part of a wide-ranging scheme to keep the Republican president in power after he lost the 2020 election to Democrat Joe Biden.

The acceptance of a plea deal is a remarkable about-face for a lawyer who, perhaps more than anyone else, strenuously pushed baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election in the face of extensive evidence to the contrary.

A lower-profile defendant in the case, bail bondsman Scott Graham Hall, last month pleaded guilty to five misdemeanor charges.

The indictment says a person who is not named sent an email to a top SullivanStrickler executive and instructed him to send all data copied from Dominion Voting Systems equipment in Coffee County to an unidentified lawyer associated with Powell and the Trump campaign.


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