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[–] kadu 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If it's in any way related to Epic, I'm not touching it.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If a game I'm interested in does this it'd be a deal breaker. Not because of the extra login but because I absolutely hate Epic's MO in running their store. I can get behind EA, Activision & co. making their own stores and deciding to not sell the games their studios develop on Steam. Fair enough, they make it so they can choose where to distribute. But Epic forcing exclusivity through monetary payments is introducing a cancer I will never support.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Valve did it before with Darwinian: https://forums.introversion.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=40203 when they were relatively new to launchers.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

I've been reading a few of the negative reviews, and people often complain about the price too. They find the game too expensive for what it offers. High price + adding Denuvo last minute without warning + trying to force people to log into EOS = Sega shooting themselves on the foot stupidly, IMHO.

[–] TallonMetroid 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, at least they're not forcing you to install and run the Epic Games Store on top of Steam. Not like, say, fucking Star Wars Squadrons forcing Origin.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 4 points 1 year ago

Ugh, origin and Ubisoft and a few others.

I'm going to be surprised if blizzard Activision games, when they appear on Steam, doesn't require you to login to battlenet.

[–] Dagnet 2 points 1 year ago

If only we could use origin still, it was actually decent. EA decided to make a new, and much worse launcher, a very logical decision ofc

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dang, as a Sonic fan I was kind of looking forward to this game. Now I'm not getting it. Denuvo = Refundo.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People should do this.

But unfortunately, this isn't a problem that Steam can address and it's fully under the responsibility of the game.

If Steam banned external launchers, a lot of games would need to retroactively fix itself. And I can also see future lawsuits as making it appear as non-competitive.

It'll be great for the a average gamer though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree that they can never fully address it, but it would be nice if they made it easier to block publishers and developers (who do not have a publisher or dev page set up, like Sega) and filter on things like "Requires 3rd-party DRM" that appear in the gold boxes in the Steam UI. Currently, I follow multiple curators who flag games for things like Denuvo. But, it would be nice to have that built into the filters and store preferences, when the info is available. If users could easily filter out bad actors, then it might discourage the bad behavior. Valve might not do any of that because it would probably strain their business relationships. So, I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No chance, doing that would discourage devpubs from distributing on Steam.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I wish steam would say something like, "all games released on steam after Jan 1 2024 must include a direct launch option" or something similar

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying to play "cross launcher" games is such a mess with friends. It breaks social features, which makes joining on friends much more difficult....especially if people bought it on different launchers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is the devs' responsibility, not different shops. I can easily play compatible crossplay games easily with my friends as long as the devs develop it from the ground up.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Wheres my Fall Guys refund?

[–] big_slap 6 points 1 year ago

extremely disappointing. was looking forward to picking this up soon and playing it on my deck :/

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

OP, appreciate you using archive.org. The gamer and all their sister sites pay their writers dirt to churn out as many posts as humanly possible. There's extremely little research.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Additionally the article sounds not very factual, the author seems a little butthurt that some players dare to stand up for themselves.

[–] GeneralEmergency -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Epic using Steams own MO, you love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Steam's actually works. The amount of bullshit with Rocket League since they switched over....

[–] GeneralEmergency 1 points 1 year ago

The amount of physical discs I had to return because they required Steam would like a word.